Especially the ones who ask dumbass questions here, they assume that it's a battleground and it's us vs. them. Instead of trying to actually DISCUSS and understand our point of view, they place themselves in the "superior" (lmfao) position of (attempting to) decimate us with their L0gIkZ, and when you don't fall into the trap of debating with them they think it's because you can't make an argument rather than because you see right through their shit and choose not to interact with them the way they want you to interact.

They have the communication skills of a fucking squirrel and emotional intelligence of a paper plate. It's fucking embarrassing.

Discuss.

Just curious, as the mother sub seems to be adamantly against oral sex. Does it cancel out if a man is willing to do the same?

Dear Pinkpillers,

Do you believe that a spirituality that teaches men that they are desperately wicked and need supernatural help is something that has value?

This spirituality affirms many of the ideas that are present on this subreddit. It doesn’t make excuses for men, but holds them to a very high standard.

Lastly, if you are not a strict materialist, do you think there is a Spirit that can help men?

the FAQ answers the question of why women hate men with "the posts on r/nametheproblem are a justification for hating men" (I'm paraphrasing so correct me if I've misinterpreted, the original quote is " > Why do we "hate" men?: r/nametheproblem ")

my problem with this is that r/nametheproblem is a subreddit full of anecdotes, and hating all men based on anecdotes seems like a hasty generalization. The main argument I've heard in relation to r/nametheproblem is that all crimes noted on there are committed exclusively by men, proving that all men are terrible. this also doesn't make sense logically, because it falls under that logical fallacy "if all bad people are men, it logically follows that all men are bad people". I'll give an analogy, I hope this makes my point a bit more clear. many pinkpillers argue that since 90% of violent crimes are committed by men, men are clearly violent. by that logic, since 90% (more realistically 100% but I want the analogy to fit better) of false rape allegations are made by women, women are liars. in both cases, the argument can is refuted by saying that a very small percentage of men commit violent crimes, and a very small percentage of women make false rape allegations. my point being, a crime being committed exclusively by men doesn't mean all or most men commit it. r/nametheproblem shows terrible individuals and assumes that since they're all men, all men must potentially be terrible individuals.

PS: I'm aware I haven't asked a question, and the name of this sub is "ask pinkpillers", but the sidebar states that this is a space to discuss gender politics and sexism with pinkpillers, and I hope I've sparked enough of a discussion with this post for it to be considered fitting to this sub.

I’ve seen a lot of posts and comments by radfems saying that a society of all women would be a utopia. Then why doesn’t it exist yet? It doesn’t exist because nature dictates that the strong will always dominate the weak. A society of all women might be all sunshine and rainbows but it would only exist for a few hours before a stronger society would come along and just kick it down and take its resources.

There’s a post on pinkpill that says “all matriarchal societies were successful until men burned them down”... well guess what: if they were able to be burned down then they weren’t successful. The ability to defend your society is the first and most basic prerequisite for success.

Hi yall, I'mvery new here haha and I was just wondering what led you folks to becoming pinkpilled. I'm a woman who'd consider herself a "standard" feminist. I think you guys would call me a libfem maybe? I'm interested to know if there was anything in particular that led you down this path?

I'd ask on the other sub but I'm not sure if this is allowed and it appears to be restricted.

To clarify: I do not mean "Where does it end, is vanilla okay?" or whatever you probably have to read on a daily basis. I am Anti-Porn myself,

I want to ask what even is "porn", and I do not really mean it in a dictionary way. Is porn only the filmed act of intercourse? I would argue no. Is a purposefully erotic music video "porn"? I mean most female stars get pressured into showing themselves in revealing or erotic ways.

Should it not be "We are Anti-"Forced Sexualisation of the female body"? And of course "We are Anti-Porn (the industry AND the practice)"?

Also on that note what is your opinion on porn made by lesbian creators for other lesbians, is that better/worse or the same?

I know this is a complex topic but I would love to hear all of your opinions.

Also English is not my native language so I hope you can excuse my clumsiness with it.

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I recently found this sub, so I am not fully aware of what the pink pill philosophy take is on equality, and I was unable to deduce it from the FAQ, so any insights are welcome.

I'm gonna try to keep this part brief, but I honestly can't contain my excitement. I loved r/askpinkpillers before it was privatized, it was my favorite platform for discussion on discrimination and feminism, and I'm so happy it's back!

So my question (ok I promise this part actually is brief): could you outline when discrimination is and isn't acceptable? The most extreme example of this is pink pilled feminists saying they would abort male fetuses, which sounds like pure sex based discrimination, And I was wondering why that discrimination is acceptable.

It is on restricted mode for testing. If it goes well, it will be made public. If not, it will be private again.

Just wanted to give good news to my pink pillers!

We made new changes to align with Reddit's TOS better, so please read the new rules!

Thank you and I hope you see you there!

I know blackpillfeminism believes everything is biology, but still confused exactly what pinkpill philosophy believes in.

We have made some rule changes (not that much) to fit with the Reddit's TOS to avoid being banned.

We also are looking to add 5 more mods with an extensive history in Radfem communities. (You may apply through me, and I will vet you. If you have a new account, let me know what your old account was and show me proof with forwarding me the email which Reddit sent to you when you created the old account). You must be an active mod and go through the mod queue or mail every time you log on.

We still need to fully delete old posts that MAY break Reddit's TOS, this is a work in progress, but Im hoping I can finish this in around 3 days.

Also, we will reopen "slowly". It won't be available immediately to everyone for obvious reasons. It will be in restricted mode, so only approved users can post/comment, but everyone will be able to see posts. If everything goes well, it will be public again. We will approve users through modmail. If you need to be approved, please be patient, we will approve you but it may take time. We will go through everyone's post history (so don't create a new account), and go through the queue. We anticipate a lot of traffic the day it opens, particularly from the MRAs/AHS.

Last but not least, we need to be more hush hush on our stance on "changing" your sex. Many gendercritical subreddits were banned for transphobia (Reddit TOS Rule 1: Promoting hate). As long as we don't promote hate, we are good. We can talk about it, however, such as submitting news stories or discussing how gender roles are bullshit and doesn't change sex, but we can't say transwomen suck and talk about how much you hate them or how they disgust you. We would be banned for sure. The reason ppf survived the banwave was because ppf isn't inherently gender critical. It mostly discussed male inferiority (not bannable since Reddit would have to ban the entire manosphere/porn as well).

LAST BIT OF INFO (promise), if you want to talk with NO filter check out the saidit pages for pinkpillfeminism and gendercritical. On ppf saidit, I posted a gif of a woman cutting off and penis with the title "YES ALL MEN" and didn't get banned from there and wasn't removed. Great site to vent without being scared of Reddit.

If ppf is banned because it's too "hateful" according to Reddit, join r/AndreasGarden. Its a low key radical feminist sub thats more chill.

Hope to see you all soon <3

I'm a male chauvinist. I believe women deserve less then equal treatment or benefit. Aside from that I don't care for women rape victims and say women are complete and utterly worthless and deserve to all die. We all know women are inferior to men in every way, shape, and form. I wonder how you all feel about that.

How do you think about the severing politics in the Western world? Just vent out all the way.

I went to the sub today and poof?? It is the gone?

Is it gender equality, or to make males extinct, or to make males serve? Or any other situations that I didn't think of...

You can all sink to the bottom, say hello to /r/The_Donald and /r/gendercritical for me!

You all are the female version of what you stand against. You are no better than incels or the manosphere. Change my mind.

It's been nice reading your high IQ posts, sisters. ♥️

Why do you dislike men? Without us you would not exist

1. What is misogyny?

2. What causes it? How is it created?

3. Is it natural?

4. Is it ever justified?

5. How do you believe it should be addressed or resolved?

If any?

I'd be particularly interested in the thoughts towards political parties in the UK but definitely other large nations like the US.

Personally I lean towards the left because I think it has the people's best interests at heart, so in the UK this would be the Labour party. However I am unsure how they represent women and how they are attempting to reduce the impact that the crippling patriarchy has on the lives of women socially, economically and in the work place. Personally as per following up on my last post I have definitely taken an interest in how I can help women around me and it occurred to me that I could definitely use my vote to do so.

Do you have any opinions on rappers?

All of civilisation was built upon the backs of great men. I'm guessing it hurts that you owe it to them that you can preach your misandry ? :)

Not satire genuinely curious.

Pretty pwease? With sprinkles on top?

You won't be missed, just like the incels weren't,

might celebrate after -- actually,

Love -

Someone against your foul misandry.

P.S: /r/againsthatesubreddits is right on your ass ;).

Why is it okay if a woman was engaged prior to our relationship BUT you think porn is bad?

RiDDle3 mE tHat FOAMINISTS???????

I mean not every game is like GTA there are many harmless games which are loved by gamers like Minecraft, Animal Crossing, Mario. Even the worse ones like Call of Duty really aren’t that bad, people like to argue that they increase violence but there is no scientific evidence to support this.

I personally don't awnser the questions even when I want to because I am not pink pilled. But I see so many times people who clearly aren't, even misogynistic people who awnser even though it is called ask pink pillers. Seriously, it's like a man awnsering on askwoman that's not the right spot. And there isn't even a rule on this sub about the awnsers. Why do you let them ?

Considering you always fault men for consuming things in which the industries are unethical like porn or prostitution, how is it not hypocritical for you to say that considering that a large majority of the clothing, food, and other products (jewelry, handbags, etc.) you consume are also produced extremely unethically, often by literal slave labor in third world countries?

Hi everyone, this is my question:

Why are you asking for the support of PinkPill feminists if you're looking at pornographic, fetishizing and misogynistic subreddits? I hate to point fingers, but gosh, Mr. /u/SnowAssMan, you must think we're fucking idiots who can't see your deleted post history.

Can anyone tell me why "allies" do this? Serious question.

Hypothetical scenario: All people had a brain reset with no prejudices towards any gender/sexuality and everyone just sees everyone else as equal or as an individual, what is your opinion on that, if that were possible, would you say that we don't need feminism anymore, since everyone is equal now?

oh and also there's no difference for genders when it comes to law.

Many male rape cases are often reported by the media as "forced sex" or "sex act", men who come out with their stories are told to "man up" or asked "are you sure it wasn't the other way around?", In many countries according to the law the act of rape can only be committed by a man which denies the victim of justice, I have read people say that sexual assault on men is not the same as that on women because men are incapable to feel the pain or that they enjoy it, in most cases the offender gets little to no punishment which only encourages them.

what is your opinion on this?

I'm just interested in how you all spend your time (or wish to spend your time) when you are not toiling away at work. Going your own way involves a direction, and a sense of purpose for going in said direction, and that's what I'm curious about. I wish to know what kind of person you are when you're not angry, scared, disgusted, or otherwise troubled by the crushing weight of the world.

What do your ideal happy times look like and why do they make you happy?

Late night browsing has lead me here and I was wondering why y'all seem to think porn causes violence?

You find watching porn usage to be completely distasteful and an automatic dealbreaker, whether it be current or in the past. That’s your prerogative. Most guys find it harmless, but you have your reasons for finding it exploitative. You can disqualify a man as relationship material on that basis alone. You can dq them for some arbitrary reason like left-handedness, baldness, shortness.

You and I agree that misrepresenting oneself and lying to your partner is wrong. Both men and women are guilty of this, but it’s wrong nonetheless. Choosing not to divulge information that you do don’t think is relevant is your right. And a e can agree that people can terminate or not initiate a relationship for any reason or no reason.

And yet where sexual history is concerned, you advocate lying, not choosing not to divulge, but outright lying to preserve a relationship, his personal values notwithstanding. Even if he is a low-count male who desires a partner that has only had sex in long-term, committed relationships because he holds himself to that standard, you still advocate lying.

If a man lied about his past porn usage because he considered it inconsequential, you’d be reasonably upset. But if a man doesn’t want a partner with a history of promiscuity because he finds THAT distasteful, that he prefers sex in committed relationships and desires a part that is the same, you still promote lying out of self-interest.

How is that not wrong? Is he not entitled to his preferences? There are plenty of women who only have sex in committed relationships and desire partners that are the same. Is it wrong for a man to lie about his own history to them?

Id describe my self as a radical feminist, not in the same way as the pink pill but fairly close. so in the spirit of things I thought id ask what yall thought about gay men?

Why is men masturbating/ watching porn worse than women masturbating or watching porn? Why are anti feminist men worse than anti feminist women? More generally, do you view the statement "man does X" (assuming X is a bad thing) as worse than "women does X"?

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Ok, first of all I am a Marxist. I believe that All struggles are class struggles (ASACS). From the ASACS point of view, the fight for gender equality is a class struggle. In consequence I believe that if the roles were reversed (women are the majority in the bourgeoisie), men would be oppressed due to it being more beneficial to the bourgeoisie.

This is just a hypothetical scenario.

I am interested to know if you think that the problem is class division, or if you think that if the bourgeoisie were women we would instead have gender equality.

In my opinion, yes. Women can be attractive in many percentage of body fat. But it seems men have to have body fat less than 19% to be considered attractive.

To be considered attractive men actually have to work out to be thin and toned, where as women are perfectly fine, as long as they're not too fag

She's 28, for crying out loud! :(( The madness never ends over there!

...and would it be different were it a gay man, who identifies as a gay man, with a feminine name & preferred feminine pronouns?

You also say "trans-women are men" – technically that's true, but it makes it sound like they are no different from men, the way that "trans-women are women" does, but in the reverse case (of course trans-women have a lot more in common with men than women, but still). It's like saying "gay men are men", it's true, but it sounds so much like the erasure of a minority.

I usally opt for: trans-women are trans-women, which is something even trans-women say (most TRAs are not trans but tend to be more, shall we call it "hyper-sensitive").

I think never allowing yourselves to be defeated & just being too difficult to monitor & silence for good is the only way to get back at the misogyny-sphere. I imagine that if you ever tried to fight back they'd retaliate 10x harder. It's what they always do. They always teach you a lesson for trying to teach them a lesson. If you slap them they'll physically destroy you. They have a lot of stamina when it comes to carrying out violence against women. Their aggression against women is the most renewable resource in the world. But anyway, I'm ranting now.

Is at least something being done in the direction of the return of BlackPillFeminism, but stronger than before?

Where are the BPF mods?