What experiences led you to the PinkPill?

Submitted Dec. 21, 2020, 4:34 a.m. by Outrageous_Acadia928

Hi yall, I'mvery new here haha and I was just wondering what led you folks to becoming pinkpilled. I'm a woman who'd consider herself a "standard" feminist. I think you guys would call me a libfem maybe? I'm interested to know if there was anything in particular that led you down this path?

I'd ask on the other sub but I'm not sure if this is allowed and it appears to be restricted.

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sstena · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:12 a.m. · 1 reply

From all the messages I was told while growing up, I often ended up believing the most utopic ones. Like the idea that men are just touch starved and they weren't allowed to cry as children so if you are soft, generous and loving to them they will blossom into loving partners, friends and family members.

I bought that one hard and then was dumbfounded every time I showered a man with love and emotional labor to only receive disrespect and violence.

I was often told that I hadn't loved well enough, that I hadn't given enough freedom, that I hadn't communicated well enough.

Eventually I found PPF and their voices allowed me to challenge those flawed assumptions I had. I reviewed my past and saw it made no sense to think the way I did.

To me it is clear when looking at the evidence that men as a whole are entitled, have powerful pedo-tendencies and have a violent drive to own and control others, especially women. Their depravity knows no limits. Whether this is nature or nurture doesn't concern me, the reality of what actually happens when men are involved is what concerns me.

What sex are the people who created and buys sex dolls shaped like prepubescent girls and toddlers? What sex are the people who enslaved an oragutan, shaved it, put makeup on it, and paid to rape it? What sex are the people who create wars? What sex are the people who rape, kill and rob the most? What sex are the people who hold most power and wealth in the world? What sex are most presidents and CEOs both in politics and business in the entirety of the planet?

What sex are the people married off as children? What sex are most of the people trafficked for sexual slavery? What sex are most of the victims of war? What sex the majority of victims of sexual abuse? What sex are the majority of victims murdered by their romantic partners? What sex are the majority people who are forbidden the freedom to divorce, abort or leave their country?

Once you start looking at colder data it is hard for the fantasy of general male empathy to remain intact.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 21, 2020, 6:02 a.m. · 1 reply

Wow, I'm so sorry about your negative things, you've really been through some rough things haven't you :( *sending hugs

So where does it the PinkPill lead you if I may ask, it sounds like you've sworn male companionship completely, does this mean your romantic life will only be single or lesbian from now on?

sstena · Dec. 21, 2020, 6:32 a.m. · 1 reply

I'm sure you've had your share of male violence yourself. I'd be surprised if you've never been catcalled, never had a man coerce you into sex, never had men send you dick pics, never had men go aggressive on you when you reject them, never had men put you in an uncomfortable position socially with sexual comments. Are you a complete stranger to these occurences?

does this mean your romantic life will only be single

Yes.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 21, 2020, 3:27 p.m.

I have been catcalled quite a bit unfortunately but not much at all where I grew up, it was more rural. I wouldn't say I've been coerced into sex ever really but definitely been put in uncomfortable positions.

I think the main really bad thing was a very inappropriate relationship that was kinda predatory looking back, I was a adolescent basically and he was way older. Seemed so perfectly normal at the time but now I realize how disgusting it was.

I'm not going to ask you to go try again with men, seems like you've been hurt enough, but is being single forever a satisfactory option for you? would you ever try a same-sex relationship?

trucrimepill · Dec. 21, 2020, 2:56 p.m. · 1 reply

There is a CLEAR correlation between how human males act versus other species. The human male is plagued with violence and hate. The human male commits more crime and acts of violence compared to women. They destroy not only women, but other species (game hunting). I wish human males were like those in other species.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 21, 2020, 3:22 p.m. · 2 replies

Sure but its kinda complicated right, like for example Eastern European men seems to be more violent towards us compared to lets say Scandinavian men, when you start to judge whole groups based on statistics, that can go into dangerous territory no?

trucrimepill · Dec. 21, 2020, 3:48 p.m. · 1 reply

Nothing wrong with statistics. Its fair to judge, thats how we advance in science. What do you think criminal psychologists do and study? If they didn't base off crime statistics, many criminals would still be out today. They use statistics to create a profile of the perpetrator.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:31 p.m. · 2 replies

Okay fair but for example what are your thoughts on using statistics for like race & IQ? a lot of white-nationalist types use statistics to argue against certain communities for example, or what about racial profiling?

trucrimepill · Dec. 21, 2020, 6:06 p.m. · 1 reply

Race iq tests were done by white men, so it's not reliable. FBI statistics are different on the other hand and compiled by different races and genders.

waldemar_the_dragon · Dec. 21, 2020, 7:21 p.m. · 1 reply

If you are gonna apply that logic everywhere, that anything done by white men is unreliable, you will quickly run into trouble.

Also, FBI statistics show that black men are far more likely than white men to commit assault and homicide. Do you think they should be treated differently for that?

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BlockingYouAllRad Fem Female · Dec. 24, 2020, 2:06 p.m.

Speaking of race and IQ, white men should STFU. Because both jewish and east asian men are above them on those statistics.

minty-coralReversing the Reversal · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:01 p.m. · 1 reply

that can go into dangerous territory no?

No.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:28 p.m. · 1 reply

I mean some neo-nazi type people use 'statistics' to rail against certain marginalized communities, or use like junk racial "science", don't you think that is a similar in a way?

minty-coralReversing the Reversal · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:32 p.m. · 1 reply

No. We're not neo nazis. Men are not marginalized. False comparison.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:41 p.m. · 1 reply

Sorry mb, never meant to say you were, just that some bad actors could use "science" and statistics in a malicious way

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minty-coralReversing the Reversal · Dec. 21, 2020, 5 p.m. · 1 reply

No particular experience. Just observing the world and coming to the right conclusion. Also having the guts to face reality.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:29 p.m. · 1 reply

May I ask what the overall consequence of that is for you? Have you basically sworn of men as romantic partners? if yes, do you seek same-sex relationships or just stay single

minty-coralReversing the Reversal · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:35 p.m. · 1 reply

Positive consequences. I see men for what they are and don't put up with their shit. I haven't sworn anything. I just live my life. I'm not a lesbian so I would never seek same sex relationships.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:39 p.m. · 1 reply

Ah okay, so if the 'right' man came along, would you be willing to pursue a relationship with them? I know apparently some people here identify as voluntary celibate right.

minty-coralReversing the Reversal · Dec. 21, 2020, 5:45 p.m. · 1 reply

Yes, I would. But I’m also voluntary celibate until or IF that ever happens.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 22, 2020, 5:25 a.m. · 1 reply

Being pinkpilled, what is your criteria for the 'right' man? Sorry if that's too personal you don't have to answer. I'm just wondering is there standard like low body count, what's the ideal man to you?

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Watchyourback1121 · Dec. 21, 2020, 10:37 p.m. · 1 reply

I probably leaned more libfem at some point also, but never felt like it fit. Mostly because of the acceptance of porn and sexualization of women as "empowering". I never felt like mainstream feminists spoke enough about the objectification of women and the problems that arise from that.

Libfem also never spoke enough about the inequalities in romantic/intimate relationships and sex. Pinkpill captured all of this stuff.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 22, 2020, 5:23 a.m.

That's very interesting, I'm kinda torn being a so called libfem. like I want to respect bodily autonomy, but sex work is incredibly abusive, contributes to sex trafficking and is disgustingly evil. I just can't support stuff like prostitution which puts me at odds with some other "feminists" in my circle.

urination_sensation · Dec. 22, 2020, 4:50 a.m. · 1 reply

it's simple, really -- the women on PPF were the only ones who understood the anger and sadness i felt as a result of being raped as a young girl, not being taken seriously by anyone, having asshole males masturbate to my story, and it being joked about. it's helped me to understand that i don't need to associate myself with them and can choose an independent life away from them. i struggle with cptsd and psychosis as a result of the trauma, and the pinkpill lets me vent that anger and frustration i feel.

i found like-minded individuals, and i'm okay with the lifestyle i've chosen.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 22, 2020, 5:19 a.m. · 1 reply

Oh my god, I'm so sorry that sounds terrible, shame on people who didn't take something that traumatic seriously. I think your position is more than understandable.

urination_sensation · Dec. 22, 2020, 6:23 a.m. · 1 reply

it’s fine, don’t be sorry

even if my position was not understandable or people were disapproving and critical of it, which frankly, they are, i truly couldn’t care less. i’m not actively hurting anyone either.

Outrageous_Acadia928 · Dec. 22, 2020, 6:44 a.m. · 1 reply

Absolutely, if you want to single, why should anybody else mind that. I've heard the term 'voluntary celibate', is that basically how you identify?

urination_sensation · Dec. 22, 2020, 7:24 a.m.

i don’t associate myself with the label because of how toxic the community is. i don’t really describe myself in any way, but i guess the closest would be female separatist.