Pregnancy, birth and fertility care need to be more gender inclusive, advocates say

Submitted July 11, 2021, 9:50 a.m. by carnalhag

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/pregnancy-birth-and-fertility-care-need-to-be-more-gender-inclusive-advocates-say-1.5504045

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InsertWittyJoke · July 11, 2021, 12:48 p.m. · 4 replies

Maybe this is judgey of me but these people sound like the very last people who should be getting pregnant/having children. Maternity clothing makes you dysphoric, gendered language makes you feel excluded, breastfeeding makes you disassociate.

Like bruh, you have a serious mental condition, why don't you try treating that problem before you add kids to the mix.

Either way don't involve me and my maternity/postpartum care in your shit.

terrn1981 · July 11, 2021, 3:47 p.m. · 2 replies

Why fix themselves? They would rather all of society change for them!

It's a "THEM" problem. This is like the incels expecting/demanding women to fix their depression by sleeping with them. Emotionally manipulative generation we have here. They demand everyone empathize with them, while lacking the ability to empathize with others.

ShmookyTheOpossum · July 13, 2021, 7:43 a.m.

Rules for thee, not for me.

PollyannaPenny · July 21, 2021, 3:58 a.m.

This is like the incels expecting/demanding women to fix their depression by sleeping with them.

Great analogy! Its also apt because giving in to their tantrums doesn't solve the underlying problem. Giving an incel a pity fuck won't fix the issues that made him an incel to begin with. And coddling a delusional woman by erasing female words from OBGYN care won't fix whatever mental problems made her want to LARP as a man while being pregnant and giving birth.

Thats_My_Moo · July 12, 2021, 10:38 a.m. · 1 reply

This is what I always think. Pregnancy is the most female thing that exists. Only females can get pregnant (that is not to say that all can or should, just that only they can), and if you're so distressed about being seen as or feeling female, why would you do the most female thing? 🤦🏻‍♀️

KatKittyKatKitty · July 12, 2021, 12:59 p.m. · 1 reply

I know there is talk about uterus transplants happening one day but I just find it difficult to believe there will be high success rates for biological males. I would be concerned about the infant’s development.

ShmookyTheOpossum · July 13, 2021, 7:42 a.m.

The men that will try to do this will just due from organ atrophy and sepsis. It'll be funny to see them try though, that is unless they'll try to harvest our blood too since apparently this can work if you constantly pump the guy full of female blood. 👀

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PollyannaPenny · July 21, 2021, 4:05 a.m.

Its not judgey of you. Its unfair for a parent to bring a baby into a world where they'll have to constantly affirm their parent's mental illness like an emotional support animal.

Its also unfair because a child has a right to an accurate birth certificate and medical records. Its important to know who your mother is because certain illnesses are passed through the maternal line. But I guess a trans-man's validation is more important than their baby's health/needs.

redditisawaste22 · July 21, 2021, 1:53 p.m.

Why aren’t we allowed to judge or be critical? When have we become so philosophically soft as a culture that we can’t call out blatant absurdity?

KatKittyKatKitty · July 11, 2021, 8:28 p.m.

Transgender people are less than one percent of the population. I think we can take measures to accommodate them and be careful with their pronouns while also acknowledging that pregnancy is generally a womanly experience.

A pregnant transgender person probably feels like a fish out of water because they are a fish out of water. There is nothing even wrong with the situation if the baby is being born to loving parents but it is not fair to say pregnancy forums and OB clinics and hospitals need to stop using gendered language all together. Most pregnant people are women. Anything else is something unique and should be respected by medical staff without being considered the norm.

jonny-reddit · July 12, 2021, 5:42 a.m.

From patient intake forms to online forums and communities, pregnancy

is portrayed as something that only happens for women, more often than

not excluding non-binary and trans people, and advocates say this

exclusion isn’t always accidental.

No it's not accidental you twats it's deliberate because it IS WOMEN ONLY WHO GET PREGNANT

Where are the grownups in the world who will say to these people, no, now go away.