A spit in the face to bw
Racism/Misogyny/Racist Misogyny Submitted June 19, 2020, 5:44 p.m. by basegoddess85Bw have you encountered TRAs who tell you all about the trans plight and tell you “we’re sisters” but in the same breath tell you how masculine you are? Or argue with you when you tell them “hey it’s racist to compare black women to men”? I’ve had TRAs argue me down that they have the right to use bw as talking points because we’re so similar. How do they not see they double down on their misogyny with misogynoir?
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I've never heard this from gnc gay black men who identity as trans. Black "trans women" are pretty vocal about not being the same as us... they don't pretend that being male isn't a factor.
I tend to ignore white men.
It’s usually white TRAs and libfems I encounter with this mindset, but I’ve encountered a few black TW who’ve called me a man/male because I don’t believe twaw.
Were the black TWs young? I often forget that age is important when discussing these folks. I don't talk to Gen Zers / young millennials.
Yes they were between 18-mid/late 20s. I call them tumblrinas, that’s normally where they stem from. Maybe I didn’t word my post right but it’s mainly white TRAs/Libfems who do this, should I edit it and put that?
Nooo it's just a generational thing. 🤗
This generation is... yeesh 😬
Gender crit women do it too and pretend to be brand new with their comparisons to black face and comparing anti woman issues to anti black issues while ignoring the intersection of gender and race on treatment.
Yea they’re usually quieter than roach farts in the wind when it comes actual issues black women face for fear of being considered racist (literally had one say this to me yesterday). When I bring up violence by BM against us they’ll dance around the topic and say “ww are abused too” to get around criticizing BM.
I agree with you on the masculinization of bf and the feminization of bm, which further proves how racist and misogynistic their ideology actually is.
They think we’ve just opted to being more masculine when in actuality it is a defense mechanism against bm who commit all kinds of atrocious violent acts against us. Feminization of bm is the result of us not holding them accountable and coddling them instead.
I guess I think of it like this:
There’s some wm in suburbia who felt like he was a woman on the inside because he chose female characters in a video game and watched sissy hypno, goes on to spend tens of thousands of dollars on therapy, hormones, clothes, surgeries. Complains about not being treated with equal misogyny, not being able to fuck whoever they want whenever they want, not being able to invade and exploit spaces.
Meanwhile I’ve had LG black friends be forced into transitioning because they’re not even allowed to be gay. My poor lesbian friends forced to fuck males they were repulsed by to find the “right dick” that’ll set them straight, forced dates setup by their moms, grandmas, churches. My gay friends told they’re obviously women for liking men so they might as well be one. There were no hormones, or therapy, no support. Just forcing them to dress and act certain ways because they can’t comprehend sexual orientation is not a choice.
I guess I’m trying to say the parallels they think they see within us are actually the issues we face and are trying to change in our community. Reinforcing gender stereotypes is dangerous for our community and will set us back. TRAs do more harm than they even know.
Sorry for the long rant 😅
I've tried shutting this down for 5 years. And I was gaining traction but 10 days ago a Black Trans women got one for Transgender Subs with a post about "Why can't I talk about Racism. They basically gave permission for this Racist Bullshit to start all over again.
1) White Trans people aren't born into marginalization but become marginalized once they go live full time in their Gender Identity
2) They have cognitive dissonance that their bloodlines created, either explicitly or implicitly, what is now considered to be Structural Systemic Institutional Racism. And they have generationally benefited from Black people's oppressions.
You can't weaponize Black oppressions when you have generationally benefited from it.
3) The Black Codes and Jim Crow Laws existed all across America. The South just had formal Jim Crow Laws.
4) JIM Crow was a whole system of control mechanisms to continue with the dehumanization and denigration from Slavery.
5) Black people have 400+ years of Atrocities committed by White people against Black people on every conceivably level. That's 400+ years of checkmates to shut down these inappropriate comparisons.
6) The real issue is there are enough women who are uncomfortable with them being in bathrooms and Locker rooms. Plus the activistm that has drifted into being in:
A) in Women's and girl's sports programs
B) in Women's Prisons
C) in Women's shelters and halfway houses
D) acquiring Female legacy Scholarships
Yeah this is going to start up again because they were given the okay doke from the Black Trans woman.
Waaaayyyy too many women co-signing this madness. I still have no idea how they don’t see how misogynistic and racist their ideology is. Comparing bw to men to appease their feelings? Keep that “intersectionality” over there.
It toxic White Entitlement to try to appropriate anything and everything they can: intersex conditions, indigenious populations, third gender, the complexity of embryonic sex development--> even though vast majority of population is binary, specific terms from the Lesbian Community.