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Submitted by spiralbutupwards on June 29, 2020, 5:21 p.m. 5 comments

Are transwomen women? Why cant we agree on what woman even is??? Aren’t the only people to who don’t have two Y or X chromosomes intersex not trans? Isn’t female and male based on chromosomes?

Submitted by seasalt34 on June 29, 2020, 5:15 p.m. 2 comments

Men discuss the mistreatment of women

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Submitted by seasalt34 on June 29, 2020, 1:18 p.m. 42 comments
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"man" is really just an act. it conjures up a certain spirit that most male humans in our civilization engage in.

a male human is just a biologically male human. They can be cute humans. A male human can be anything and have any personality and all sorts of interests.

but "man" makes me think of a specific act that most male humans participate in. it involves short hair, stoicism, aversion to being overly close with other males, etc. it makes me think of a "Handsome young man" who works hard and studies hard to get a high paying job, just so he can find a beautiful girl and get married and have kids.

"man" is a spirit that humans try to force on all male humans, which is stupid.

Submitted by zaquiastorm on June 29, 2020, 1:02 a.m. 82 comments

I can't make a statement about biology without being called a TERF. This post might fit into r/terfisaslur, but honestly, the question burning in my mind while I sit here, enraged, is for GC and QT.

Why can't I point out that human sex is binary, and trans women are trans women, not women, without being called a TERF?

I'm not a radical feminist. Rather the opposite, honestly, considering my deep concern for men's issues as well as women's. I'm not trans exclusionary, either - I don't give half a fuck how someone wants to be addressed or what makes them happy; live however you want. I will happily use she/her pronouns for a trans woman if it makes her happy, and vice versa for trans men.

But human sex as a biological science is binary, even when we take into consideration the fluctuations and deviations most apparent in intersex people.

So, why in the actual fuck did someone actually try telling me that humanity has 5 sexes? What the hell are the other 3 gametes? I know I'm asking this aggressively, but really, please. If you know, educate me. Enlighten me. What else is there besides sperm and eggs, and what genetic activation or lack thereof outside of SRY and AR is there?

Submitted by clever-science on June 29, 2020, 12:37 a.m. 15 comments

Because there wasn't an off topic Friday this week.

Also, I wanted to plug my subs. 🤷

r/Radwomen (rad as in badass, not as in radical feminist necessarily) and r/WomensWork. The subs focus on women (AFAB, female people) only but anyone is welcome to post or comment (so it's not necessarily a female only space just a heads up).

Didn't someone else also pitch a sub? r/DiscussingGender?

QT argue that transgender people are murdered at a much higher rate than anyone else. The usual gender critical response is to quote the only available statistics, such as GLAAD's annual report, which reports fewer than 30 murders of transgender people per year in the U.S.

This number seems extremely low for a country with 330 million people. It is several times lower than the murder rates for cisgender men and women as listed by the FBI in its annual crime reports.

Should transgender people be tracked as a separate category by police departments in order to get a more accurate picture of the rate of violence against the transgender community?

Submitted by [deleted] on June 28, 2020, 7:08 p.m. 2 comments

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Submitted by orion-7 on June 28, 2020, 4:48 p.m. 10 comments

Preface: I know this reads as a gotcha, but I'm honestly just tired and can't do tone, sorry about that. I actually want to understand where you're coming from on this.

So I've seen a lot about how indigenous peoples had third genders, which demonstrates that the binary is false. And there's a lot of lauding about how wonderful it was before the white man crushed it

However, the more I look into it, the third genders (specifically two spirits, Hijra and a Maori one I cannot spell) seem to be blanket categories similar to what we'd call LGBT, but encompassing mostly homosexual males who were essentially kicked out of the boys club. Worse, the hijra were second lowest in the caste system and forced to live in segregated communes, with only religious duties and sex work for income

Why is this vaunted as being really progressive? To me it seems crazy homophobic, in the hijras case transphobic, and just generally unrepresentative of what we'd understand as trans today? From my current understanding it feels dangerously close to the noble savage trope.

Thanks in advance

Submitted by newthrowawaypopcorn on June 28, 2020, 3:37 p.m. 28 comments

I often see radfems saying they're against porn because it perpetuates violence against women, but what about gay porn (considering there are no women involved)?

Submitted by DontFireMeImGC on June 28, 2020, 1:14 p.m. 48 comments

A transwoman often identical to a man so what makes them a woman? If a transwoman can be identical to a man in every way what makes them a woman? And vice versa

Submitted by hugonaut13 on June 28, 2020, 12:31 p.m. 40 comments

For the last year or two, I've been increasingly treated by others as though they believe I am in the closet as trans. People have been insanely supportive, finding ways to STRONGLY SIGNAL to me that it's ok for me to come out and be my authentic self. It's very well-meaning and kind, but if I'm being completely honest, it has made it a lot harder for me to navigate through life... I kind of just want to be left alone and treated as a human, not a project.

I was nonconforming as a child and I continue to be nonconforming as an adult. For my entire adult life, I never critically examined my relationship to gender (either in general or specific to myself); as a child, I just thought that the whole thing seemed pretty silly. I am a gay woman, because I was born into a female body and I am attracted to female bodies. That's pretty much it for me.

Yet because I don't conform, every new person I meet takes one look at me and assumes trans man, closeted, needing support.

Here are some relevant facts about my situation:

  • I wear my hair in a crew cut. Occasionally I take the top down to finger length and the sides down to 1/4". My hair, when its freshly cut, looks like this.
  • I experience dysphoria and discomfort around my breasts. It comes and goes in waves; some days I don't think much about it and other days it's so uncomfortable I wish I could scratch my body off like a scab.
  • I experience dysphoria and discomfort around my genitals. This is something that has only begun happening in the last year or so. I remember exactly the moment that changed everything -- a friend of mine asked me whether I ever wanted to be a man and I said no. I said that I didn't even know what I would do if I woke up with a penis. My friend laughed and said, "I know exactly what I'd do." I couldn't get it out of my head and now here we are.
  • I have never ever felt a desire to be pregnant, give birth, or raise children
  • I enjoy "masculine" hobbies: I like to work with my hands (woodworking, various crafting projects), I like mechanical projects (3D printing, building and maintaining a bicycle), computers (building and programming), MMA and combat sports, etc
  • I wear clothes that can charitably be described as androgynous/completely gender neutral, but I shop almost exclusively in the men's section these days.

Despite all these, I have always felt very comfortable in women's spaces and as part of women's groups. I identify strongly with womanhood as it exists for me: linked to how I move through this world and am treated by others based on my biology.

My girlhood involved getting my period at 11 and developing large breasts at the same time. By the end of 6th grade, I had bled through my pants in class twice, and was repeatedly targeted by boys who made a game of sneakily unhooking my bra behind me.

I remember being 12 and sitting in the admin office at school across from a boy, who leered at me and motioned for me to spread my legs further apart. By 13 I was being sexualized by grown men in their 20s, 30s, and 40s, often in front of my parents and siblings, who just laughed about it.

None of these things happened to me because I identified as a woman. They happened to me because I was born female, and this is how we treat females in society -- and "how we treat females in society" = the gender of "woman".

I am a woman because I was born female. I "identify" with womanhood in the sense that I strongly feel kinship toward other people who were born into female bodies and have experienced similar things, even if I will never understand how other women are attracted to men instead of each other, as I am.

I guess that's the root of my nonconformity. I have never ever felt like I needed or wanted to look or act a certain way in order to get a boy's attention (or anyone else's, for that matter). And so I never did any of those things. And now, as a 30 year old adult, everyone around me thinks that because I don't do those things, I must be a man.

Why can't I be a butch woman? And why does the trans movement as a whole have no problem with making life harder for butch women in order to make life easier on trans people? Why does it seem like the trans movement double down on rigid gender roles, and reinforce conformity to those roles?

Edit: follow up question -- if I am not trans, am I cis? Does my description of myself above fit into the category of, "being a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth"?

If yes, can you please explain how each of my bullet points fits into the definition of cis, rather than falling outside the definition of cis? If these traits can all be cis AND ALSO all be trans, then what is the meaningful distinction between the two?

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Submitted by krystiancbarrie on June 28, 2020, 11:49 a.m. 1 comment
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This may sound like a strange question, and I admit that it's worded rather strangely lol. I'll try to elaborate further. This question arose after I read this comment segment from u/wintersfrost :

"The problem with the popular truscum theory that hormones 'make the body match the brain' is that there is no way to distinguish it from just having their vanity/ego satisfied that they just look more physically appealing to themselves. A male can have his vanity/ego satisfied at having busty chest implants in the same way that a female can have her vanity/ego satisfied at having a busty chest too. Whether or not the male has the 'gender identity' or 'self-image' of a female, or thinks of himself as a female (or 'feminine', I guess, since you're into conflating the female/feminine) or feels discomfort as a result of said feelings (gender dysphoria), it doesn't disprove the far more likely and simpler explanation that he's just having his ego/vanity appeased from having his physical appearance change in a way that his vanity/ego finds physically appealing."

Thanks for the interesting thought!

So, the way I'd try to articulate my question better is by asking: is the goal of transition generally just to feminize/masculinize the traits you already have, or to gain traits that you deem most attractive (whilst accomplishing the former)?

Another aspect to this is, can you even separate the two?

This concept also makes me think of the many self-identified transwomen who strive to look like the women they're sexually attracted to (often times an ex or a celebrity), or the masses of self-identified transwomen that legitimately set their transition goal to be an anime character. If anyone would like receipts I could compile some after finding the time, but I'd like to focus moreso on the question without these people in mind, as I'm sure you all would agree that these people are most likely AGP and not representative of the trans community. We can't ignore the overlap, although.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with someone wanting to look good. I'd just really like to analyze the motivations and nuances behind transitioning. Gaining stylistic inspiration from those you find attractive is normal, but when it comes to surgically altering your body....

Submitted by LandSuspicious on June 27, 2020, 10:56 p.m. 1 comment

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Submitted by girlsandgals on June 27, 2020, 4:51 p.m. 27 comments

I have looked at several articles but can’t find why and how the T got added. I saw a comment that said it’s because homosexual couples wanted to avoid homophobia and would transition to seem like straight couples. Is this true?

Submitted by polka_dot_hare on June 27, 2020, 4:07 p.m. 42 comments

Hi,

I've just tried posting in r/gendercritical, and it got deleted, presumably because its a newbie question.

I am new here- the entire bruhaha with JK Rowling made me want to brush up on some of my feminist topics, and also find out for myself what GC feminism is. It might be that I've got the wrong end of the stick, so please bear with me. I mostly want to check if my thinking aligns with GC feminism, or goes against it. Some things are unclear to me. New account, because I like to compartmentalise things...

I am wondering what the ultimate goal is - would GC feminism ideally abandon categorisation based on sex, or keep it? (provided we can abandon gender roles all together).

To me categorisation of humans based on sex is itself oppressive, but I am also able to see that reproductive rights protection, relies on those categories.

Second issue- JK got into a pickle because she objected to the term "people who menstruate", rather than "women". I don't fully understand the need to cling to the term "woman"- to me it feels oppressive itself. I feel like a person who happens to be female. I am sort of guessing that maybe she was objecting to being reduced to someone who menstruates, but personally it harder to be told that "I am" a woman, rather than being told that I am a person who has certain characteristics (female). I'd find it easier to accept being referred to as a female person, rather than a woman. I am not my category!

I see sex as a category assigned to people at birth, based on predominant physical sexual characteristics. Hence, to me nobody really is a man or a woman. We are all just inhabiting each category based on physically fitting the check boxes that constitute these categories. I find it hard to affirm that "trans women are women", but equally I cannot agree that "transwomen are really men", because to me essentially there is no such thing as a "woman" or "man". People are not their categories, they only have differently sexed bodies and because of that different biological and social experiences. To me referring to people as "women" and "men" kind of reduces them to their category, and so affirms and validates an existentialist view of the sexes. I feel that for me being Gender Critical would entail entirely abandoning the terms "man and woman" for everyone, and just use male (bodied) and female (bodied) strictly when necessary in medical and legal context.

Thank you for reading- I'd be grateful for your comments and thoughts, and apologies if this does not fit here.

Submitted by saila1445 on June 27, 2020, 11:37 a.m. 38 comments

That's a statement I occasionally see thrown around in GC discussions. I've done some searching and the problem is that the claim is based on older studies from the late-sixties to the 1980s. Encapsulating more recent studies would have to accommodate the much higher rate of "trans" diagnoses.

Still and all, some GC people, and one famous gay actor, provide personal anecdotal evidence that they themselves had been GNC or wished they were the opposite sex, and expressing thanks that they hadn't been born later since they might have been chemically transitioned.

But what interests me is the level of GNC children who are said to have developed into adult homosexuals. I am not trying to be provocative here, but is there a discussion to be had for why young, prepubescent children who grow up to be homosexual exhibit GNC behaviour?

As I wrote this post I made a point to not say "homosexual children" since they weren't sexual beings at that point. But then I remembered that as a child, I (a male heterosexual) did have a non-sexual, inexplicable attraction to attractive females. So, without going full-Freudian, there is something going on like a latency period. But I think everyone knows what I'm talking about ...

Submitted by setzer77 on June 27, 2020, 9:26 a.m. 73 comments

If so, what sorts of economic systems are compatible with it?

If not, why do many people believe that it is?

Submitted by questioningTW on June 27, 2020, 1:46 a.m. 34 comments

See title.

Submitted by -Trotsky on June 27, 2020, 1:27 a.m. 93 comments

Personally she is what really got me thinking about trans rights plus I like her other content

Submitted by sapphicsnowflake on June 26, 2020, 5:13 p.m. 155 comments

Personally, I understand the importance of her content. and I like how she's not afraid to talk to all kinds of people, and she seems to really care about educating conservatives about LGBT rights, which is great. However, she's also quite toxic, uses slurs that don't apply to her, and hates feminism, claiming it's about hating men. Her videos also tend to be clickbaity. I find her entertaining sometimes, but I do have some issues with her. What's your take?

Submitted by massive-attack- on June 26, 2020, 3:57 p.m. 212 comments

Imagine two biological adult females, who both enjoy earrings, mascara, long dresses, and knitting, and also enjoy suits, men's jeans, short hair cuts, and not shaving. They both have issues dealing with their anger and aggression in adult conversation/debate, but love looking after children and can be very nurturing. They both go dirt biking and take ballet classes. You get the idea.

Neither person experiences body dysphoria.

One of them claims to be non-binary, requests they/them pronouns, and denounces the label, "woman."

The other continues to use she/her pronouns and continues to use the label, "woman."

What is the difference between these people?

Noticed in this handy website: https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/GCdebatesQT that several of us liked the Legend of Korra series. Hence, I thought it'd be a good question to bring us together.

The question is essentially "What do you believe 'sexed brains' means for your arguments?" / "Why do you believe that 'sexed brains' contradicts gender critical critique of queer theory?"

I'm using the term "sexed brains" to make things short, but this isn't exactly the right thing to call this phenomenon. There is no such thing as a "male/female brain" (as in no one can definitively tell one's sex by their brain, and brains are highly variable and malleable), but there is such a thing in fetal development where the brain may become masculinized or feminized. This is distinctly different from "male and female brains," as it's known that either sex may have had their brain go through either process, and the process is very unique to each individual fetus. There are, although, clear differences that occur in brains after the introduction of high levels of prenatal androgens, such as which parts of the brain illuminate during certain practices (notably practicing empathy; Marrocco, McEwen 2016), sex-dimorphic structural differences in the anterior commissure, the interthalamic adhesion, the corpora mamillaria, the amygdala, and the cortex (Bao, Swaab 2011), a "rightward shift" or lateralization of the brain (Khazan, 2013). You get the point: there are average differences between the brains of males and females, but keep in mind that the corresponding brain "type" is not at all required to be a member of your sex, and brain development is incredibly nuanced.

GC is incorrect in saying that there are no neurological differences between men and women based on their sex hormones, but correct in saying that there is no such thing as "male and female brains." Brains may be masculinized or feminized, but this doesn't make them "male or female."

Now that we've established that there are indeed average differences between men's and women's brains (had to get that out of the way before being bombarded by making an assumption), I'd like to point out the fact that females with masculinized brains (females with Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia, who have been exposed to large amounts of prenatal androgens- testosterone- during brain development) overwhelmingly do not have gender dysphoria and identify as female their whole life (Berenbaum, Bailey, 2003. *Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism).

This just got me thinking, what QT argument does the idea of "male/female brains" even support? I don't understand why it's brought up so often.

If this information is new to you, do you have any new ideas or revisions of your stance/perspective?

Submitted by InASeaOfReality on June 25, 2020, 4:03 p.m. 77 comments

Even on this sub I've seen JK Rowling described as prejudiced and ignorant. Reading Rowling's essay it's clear that she's done her research, has spoken to trans people and gender critical people and read many texts by trans people.

When I Google the definition of prejudice this is the first result:

prejudice: preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience

When I Google ignorance this is the definition I see:

ignorance: lack of knowledge or information

I know definitions work differently in the QT world, but surely these words aren't accurate to describe someone who is as well read on the subject as JK Rowling?

Is it dangerous to assume that every opinion other than the "correct" one comes from ignorance? Is it possible for two people to have similar knowledge available to them (even similar life experiences) and come to different conclusions?

If the entire world was educated on trans issues, would everyone be a trans activist?

Is there a way to be GC but not ignorant or prejudiced according to QT? Can you be wary of a group of people without being prejudiced (for example as a woman who's afraid of men after many bad experiences)?

Submitted by pranaygoluanand on June 25, 2020, 1:24 p.m. 9 comments

If gender identity is on a spectrum, how can someone have an innate gender identity? If gender identity isn’t innate, how are trans women ‘women’ and trans men ‘men’? If gender identity is fixed and innate, doesn’t that prove that gender has always been binary? How does one know if they truly have a “brain of a different gender”? If gender is so confusing where even trans people themselves “question their gender”, why should transitioning be the solution? If gender =/= sex, but gender identity =/= gender expression, what is gender?

Submitted by WritesEssays4Fun on June 25, 2020, 1:13 p.m. 11 comments

We speak a lot about language here, so I'd like to get one important thing straight.

Whenever the topic of the word "woman" comes up, QT says something to the effect of "a word means what the user claims it to mean," i.e. the definition of a word is subjective. Therefore, someone who feels that the definition of the word "woman" includes transwomen, rather than having its dictionary definition, will use it as such and not be incorrect in doing so, as their own personal definition is in effect.

What I believe, and what it seems GC believes, is that language is of course a social construct, but depending on the time period (and to a slightly lesser extent, region) does indeed have a set definition; set as in it is almost universally agreed upon, usually through the widespread natural development of the use of the word. Individuals can't claim that their personal definition is valid when the word does in fact have a current, correct definition that is agreed on by society.

During argument, QT will often take this standpoint of mine and strip it of any nuance, claiming that I think a word has "objective meaning" and that language is not socially constructed. I do not believe these things and that is either a large misunderstanding or a strawman. Language is relative to culture, but there is still an accepted correct meaning to a word at a given time.

So what is your take on this? Do you believe that there's no such thing as using a word incorrectly?

Submitted by datfishd00d on June 25, 2020, 1:03 p.m. 22 comments

So, today I stumbled across some well put together infographics on my instagram feed. I stopped myself to read them, and they talked about how transphobic and harmfull are sex-swapping filters from FaceApp. The author oddly claimed that this was a new feature in the app, "on pride month!", but this app has been know for having this type of filters for at least 3 or 4 years. Not that they are the only app that has them!

While, I can completely understand how it can trigger someone's dysphoria, is the App transphobic? I can understand it'd make you feel bad or uncomfortable. When I've used it myself, as a cis person, it made me feel really ugly and hideous as my supposed "male version", and as someone with an ED, that was hard on me. But I wouldn't blame the app for that.

Are apps like FaceApp transphobic, and should be avoided to use/post pictures of them in the media?

Submitted by Flimsy_Bug on June 25, 2020, 11:18 a.m. 120 comments

As someone who is not trans, and has never experienced dysphoria, but has not necessarily lived a gender conformist life or been free of trauma, I am attacked a lot by trans people online for "invalidating" them.

For example, ten years ago I could post on a feminist site about how I was traumatized throughout puberty because of the onslaught of men leering at me and groping me, because when my body filled out I was deemed "fat" by my peers, and when I grew body hair I was called disgusting and unfeminine. I dreamed of going back in time, stopping puberty, and getting to be a child again. Years ago, this were considered a perfectly feminist issue to discuss. Today if I post anything like this, I get told by trans people that these are not valid "cis" experiences, that I'm invalidating them by co-opting "gender dysphoria" and pretending my experiences are as bad as theirs. Or I get told I'm clearly trans and in denial, called an "egg," and I've even had a particularly charming "debate" partner insist on misgendering me as "he" the rest of the conversation. This is a person who claimed misgendering was literal violence in their post history. Of course they also called me "T*RF."

What's exasperating is most of these conversations started out having NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANS PEOPLE. I said something about my own experiences, which were not meant to reflect on trans people at all, only me. And yet a significant portion of the trans community seems to see anything that challenges their ideology as threatening and rush to shut any woman up if her own lived experiences don't fall in line with their views of gender (which, if I may say, seem overly simplistic and skewed to me).

Back when I was active on feminist blogs in the 2010s, this behavior just wasn't allowed, let alone considered part of feminism. Anyone who left comments telling women their experiences were invalid was banned. There was also no tolerance for "oppression olympics," which trans people always resort to when they attack me. They have literally told me my trauma doesn't count because no cis woman can have trauma as bad as trans people's. MRAs used to come on feminist sites and say no Western women could have trauma because Middle Eastern women had it worse. They were immediately banned. But today that is a perfectly valid feminist argument as long as it is coming from trans women.

It appears to me a lot of trans people have entered the feminist movement without taking the time to learn the movement's underlying principles. As a result, instead of listening to cis women and understanding why invalidating any woman's experiences is anti-feminist, they see it as a competition of some sort, where they have to shut any perceived dissenters up. If you understand the history of feminism, you should understand why this is a very anti-feminist philosophy indeed. The patriarchy has been shutting women up for centuries and pitting women of different classes, races, and sexualities against each other. It is understandable that someone who has been raised in a patriarchal system would not understand feminism, but there is no excuse to not educate oneself, especially if you are going to so eagerly join the movement. Yet because the trans community is so resistant to even the tiniest bit of criticism, because they will not listen to women's experiences, most trans people do not take the time to learn.

But anyway, the bottom line is, I have no idea how I can support the trans community without "invalidating" them by existing, I have no idea how to discuss my own personal experiences as woman without getting attacked and misgendered and called T*RF... I have PTSD and the tactics trans people and many of their allies use bring to mind previous abuse and give me panic attacks. I am not going full GC, but I can no longer actively support trans people in good faith. The only option I feel like I have is to shut up and avoid all feminist issues. Feminism is not for women like me anymore.

Hello all.

As we all know, dysphoria relates to the body. If someone is uncomfortable with their female body and feels that they'd be more comfortable in a more masculine one, they might transition. My question is, why does it not end here? Why the demand to now be called a man, be included in male spaces, etc? If dysphoria is the issue, changing the body would be all that is necessary to help. Does being trans consist of more than just dysphoria?

Submitted by hollyboombah on June 24, 2020, 9:39 p.m. 82 comments

This is meant to be a flip of the proven brain sex one asked a few days ago.

So if transition was not based in reality, and instead was shown to be a delusion, how would this affect your perspective on the needs of trans people?

Submitted by redditisannoyinq on June 24, 2020, 7:45 p.m. 97 comments

If transgender people do recognize that sex is real why is it taboo to accept that a trans man having sex with a woman is a homosexual sex act? The opposite is true.

Really if that’s not true then that is at it’s very best erasure of homosexual sex acts.

I really don’t think many trans gender people are aware of how much they don’t want to realise that they not really at peace with sex.

I made a comment on the sex subreddit and was downvoted to oblivion. I don’t know if it’s your allies or what

Submitted by DistantGlimmer on June 24, 2020, 2:20 p.m. 85 comments

Borrowing from the side panel of r/GenderCritical:

Gender is the collection of cultural and social behaviors, expectations, roles, and statuses bestowed upon men and women starting often before birth and continuing throughout life, even after death. Distinct from biological sex, gender is a social construct. In a patriarchy, gender is a hierarchy and serves to naturalize and justify male domination of women.

Now this is probably not what most QT/trans people mean, at least consciously, when they talk about the " gender they identify with" and I think it's rather unfortunate and confusing that both concepts use the same terminology but I am curious about your thoughts on it as a concept in its own right. Is it something you believe to be true. Are GC people right to oppose it and strive to abolish it? Would the trans ideology that you support also lead to the abolishment of these oppressive patriarchal roles or does it strive for the abolishment of sex categories altogether and if so how would that work in practice? Isn't trying to abolish gender and patriarchy a lofty enough goal. Does it even matter to you if trans ideology strives for the abolition of what GC refers to as gender? (I have seen a few comments lately from trans people that gender oppression is an natural and inevitable thing so we can just make the best of it and pick a role to identify with - sounds rather defeatist.)

A lot of posts on this subreddit usually have a couple of QT people saying that no, they don’t agree with XYZ despite trans rights activists and others on twitter claiming this or claiming that it’s transphobic not to believe XYZ.

In hindsight, it seems pretty stupid for me — I had an account in here with an old email — to believe that people open-minded and brave enough to come onto this mostly GC-dominated subreddit to argue their points, would support certain things that, say, Jessica Yaniv spouts — like transwomen can have periods.

A lot of this sub is dominated by GC, or people who are partly GC, so those who are QT don’t have much of a chance to express their opinion without being shouted down. I’ve got about ten questions below to ask you, and I hope you’ll answer.

1. How do you feel about children being given puberty blockers/hormones? Do you thing a child should be considered trans?

2. What’s your take on the whole male brain/female brain thing?

3. What do you think about female-only spaces?

4. What makes someone non-binary vs. being a gender non-conforming man/woman?

5. Do you think being trans is about the the body dysphoria (i.e wanting to have the body of the opposite sex) or gender as in roles/stereotypes and the patriarchy’s system of oppression?

6. How do you define gender? If defined differently than the above, how is this a more useful definition?

7. For those who agree with non-binary identities, why is having an infinite amount of genders preferable to none?

8. What do you think about the cotton ceiling?

9. What do you think about Rowling’s comments?

10. Women’s sports? Bathrooms/changing rooms?

11. Do you equate intersex with someone who has had SRS? Do you think a women that has had double mastectomies is less of a women because she no longer has her secondary sex characteristics?

12. What is gender identity or the feeling of being a woman/man besides body dysphoria if you think this is a thing?

13. Do you think that ‘TERFs’ are responsible for violence against trans people?

14. What do you think about the rate of suicide amongst trans people before and after transition?

15. How would you define woman? Preferably in a logically coherent, non circular way. Why is this a better definition than adult human female — which has functioned as the noun female people use to describe themselves and their oppression?

16. What do you think about the ‘trans murder epidemic’ and how it is being weaponised against people who disagree even slightly with queer theory on social media?

Thanks for answering, if you did. :)

Submitted by NommeNommeNomme on June 23, 2020, 3:16 p.m. 61 comments

It seems like trans men are often ignored in the debate about equal access. If a trans man is convicted of a crime, should he be housed in a men's prison or a women's prison? If a trans man is athletic, should he compete in men's sports or women's sports?

If there is a difference, what is it, and how is it different from trans women wanting access to women's sports and women's prisons?

Sometimes, I see people saying that dysphoria causes things like depression, which I can definitely understand, but it seems to be really controversial to suggest that rather than one causing the other (but always dysphoria causing something else, and never the other way around), perhaps they can go hand-in-hand.

It's a delicate subject I know but some trans people seem to shout down the idea of doing this research.

Submitted by villanelle23eve on June 23, 2020, 9:39 a.m. 26 comments

Hi, I made r/gendertroubles, an experimental sub for people who want to get to know the other side not with the aim of arguing with them, but understanding where they're coming from and how their life experience led them to the beliefs they have.

The sub is for controversial ideas about gender, so anyone is welcome to post, hopefully we'll get a good mix of different views, but I've never made an actual subreddit before so idk, maybe no one will show up.

The premise is sharing our own experience, and trying to sympathize with the other side and understand them. One of the rules is using unoffensive and correct language for whoever is posting the OP (which entails learning about what it is.)

As a marginalized group in the gender discussion, you can ask questions that aren't targeted for debate, and share feelings about current events and other posts. Don't know if this'll take off, but I thought it would be an interesting experiment.