All - What do you think of Blaire White?
Submitted June 26, 2020, 5:13 p.m. by sapphicsnowflakePersonally, I understand the importance of her content. and I like how she's not afraid to talk to all kinds of people, and she seems to really care about educating conservatives about LGBT rights, which is great. However, she's also quite toxic, uses slurs that don't apply to her, and hates feminism, claiming it's about hating men. Her videos also tend to be clickbaity. I find her entertaining sometimes, but I do have some issues with her. What's your take?
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Typical misogynistic gay white male.
Misogynist caricature of a woman that is a trans woman who is only speaking out on topics because they affect them and how people see them. I doubt they'd care if they had no stake in this for their reputation.
Right-wing trans woman. Don't like her
I don't agree with everything she says (she's right-wing, I'm more at the center), but I respect her and enjoy her content most of the time.
I deeply dislike everything about him.
Didn’t know who she was, just looked at her twitter. Two posts stood out to me. One she says in “2010 sexuality isn’t a choice, and in 2020 if you don’t want to have sex with trans people you a bigot- Can we go back please?!” In the other she says she thought she was trans since the age of three, but is so glad her parents didn’t put her on gender changing hormones and to “let kids be kids”.... from this brief look she seems awesome. 👏
She also doesn’t think trans women should be in women’s sports. This tra is awesome. Though I don’t like the republican shit... but I’ll take it over the “put kids on hormones, men should battle women in women’s sports, and if lesbians dont screw tras they are bigots” type any day.
Though I agree with some of the things he says, I don't like him.
When Blaire White is unabashedly right-wing, it seems to be ignored or even cheered as evidence of diversity of thought among trans activists, or something.
But for the gender critical side, the mere association with right-wing politics is widely viewed as evidence of utterly evil intent. Shared an opinion piece published on quillette? Hate crime!!1 /s
Blaire White is popular among right wingers who like to think of themselves as tolerant. Not liberals.
I've seen a couple of her videos. I don't agree with whatever right-wing views she has, but she seems moderate on trans issues. She talks with detransitioners, for example, and is against child transition.
When I was QT, Blaire was literally the first place I would hear about trans predators. So many other trans people will either pretend the predators don't exist or defend them in a round-about way. For the longest time Blaire White and Kalvin Garrah (probably misspelled) were the only place I would see trans predators be treated like predators. They're the first trans people I saw talking about Yaniv, and they're the only trans people I saw being critical of Onision's wife.
Blaire was the first transwoman I saw critical of "genital preferences" and he's the first I saw calling out the "transwomen can have periods" bullshit. He's transmed which is a stance I'm generally more able to understand, and it tends to be a less sexist ideology.
But outside of that, Blaire is a conservative who isn't supportive of feminism or really any anti-racist groups. But he does have merit as a trans person who isn't gonna put up with trans bullshit.
Misogynistic gay man loudly speaks over women about femininity and women’s issues. More news at 8.
Seriously. Why do GC people give this individual the time of day?
Never understood the appeal. He agrees he and other males have no place in our sports but he’s no ally.
Exactly. So he's got a few ideas that are connected to reality. The whole rest of the act is BS. Is there some hunger, in the part of GC people, to have a trans ally? I can't wrap my mind around that one either.
Idk but I worry about anyone calling themselves critical of gender whilst also agreeing with a man who says he’s a lady cause he’s got lipstick and somewhere you could park your penis.
Agreed. Makes no damn sense to me at all. I can't fathom how anyone tolerates him, with the constant hair flipping, lip-pursing and weird moves he does to (I guess) make sure he looks feminine or some damn thing. Makes me anxious to watch his body language and his voice is off-putting. Then there's the shit he says. I'm seriously like "WTF people'?
Technically I think he hasn't even got rid of the penis-- he wanted to have biological kids at some point?
I don't exactly agree with everything that she says, but I like her. I'm definitely not a conservative. She points out issues that other Youtubers with big platforms often ignore.
I agree with you. I consider myself pretty left (anyone from America would probably label me far-left, just the nature of american politics being so right), so I agree with like 25% or less of what Blaire says. But I still think she makes really good points, especially when she calls out pedos and how FUCKED UP it is to coerce kids into transitioning. She is not afraid to put herself out there against TRAs to speak some sanity (see her JK Rowling video or her video on MTF in sports/prisons). Sure a lot of what she says I think is stupid trash (lol) but I can still find some common ground with her enough to listen sometimes.
Idk never seen her stuff pretty sure I disagree with her but still feel bad that she keeps getting misgendered here
Blaire white began life as a male person and still has a penis; such an individual is a man, regardless of what he or anyone else imagines. Calling him 'she' is misgendering, and I agree, it's very annoying.
No she is a woman, if you saw her on the street with no context you would call her a woman. She lives as a woman too
Dude has a PENIS! He said that he has a penis. No woman has a PENIS. No one who has a PENIS can live 'as a woman' because only MEN have penises. And, like I said, dude looks like DUDE to me. If HE looks like a MAN in the videos where the lighting and angles are controlled, I'm sure he'd look like a MAN in a dress on the street. So NO, he does not pass to me.
Do you want to continue this nonsense?
Listen what the fuck does it matter she identifies as a woman she doesn’t claim to be biologically a woman but her gender is woman
Because he's a MAN. A man cannot be a woman, and I won't call him one. And it matters because this MAN in a prominent media figure impersonating a woman while promulgating misogynist clap-trap. That's why it matters. If he was just some dude living down the street from me, I wouldn't care. But he has a large platform to spread his anti-feminist misogynist bullshit while masquerading as a woman, to people who 'accept' him as a woman. It's dreadful.
Gender is BS made up to oppress women, so I don't buy into it. In the world of biological reality, in which I live no man can call himself a woman without being a liar. Blaire White is a man - he's is no kind of woman, because he is a MAN.
Being a woman means being recognized as a woman by third parties?
Is that true for any other category of people or only this? Does that mean that non-passing trans people are not their preferred gender?
Dude. As I explained in the Contra thread, GC feminists believe in the reality of biological sex. We aren't "misgendering" White, we're correcting sexing him. People can't change sex. Maybe in a 100 or 500 years, but not today.
Also, women are generally better at correctly sexing people than men are, for a variety of reasons. That's not to say we can correctly spot all trans people, that would be ridiculous. But you're more likely to be fooled by a trans person than we are.
I like her views on TRAs and cancel culture but disagree with most of her stuff.
He's very difficult to watch with the uncanny-valley voice, the constant fidgeting with the hair, and the obvious attempts to act like a woman. Not to mention his MRA stance. That's a hard 'no' from me.
Why do you find anything a misogynist says 'entertaining'?
This is how I feel anytime I see people in gc praise him 😏
I don't understand this for a second. His whole schtick in misogynist minstrelsy.
I am with you on this. His inspiration for understanding womanhood is clearly a sexualized caricature aimed for the male gaze. Not being a predator (yaniv) is such a low bar — blaire is still a misogynist male. He’s not an ally. He’s just better than the worst, but no where close to good.
But not by all that much, either.
Some of her videos aren't political, which tend to be the ones I like, as well as the ones calling out issues in the trans community
I really couldn't care less. I saw enough, and I can't get that time in my life back. I'd rather spend it doing, literally anything else. No, that's not true. If I were given the choice of being put on a ventilator or watching Blaire White do anything, I'd probably choose to watch Mr. White. Short of that....I'll take my chances.
And you can overlook the misogyny and the appropriation of female identity and the palpable lack of respect for women? How?
I mean in videos where she's not talking about that type of thing, then it won't be offensive, however I can understand how misogynists really shouldn't be supported at all. I've seen her stand up for women's rights before though, like with the pedophile Yaniv trying to make some ladies wax their balls, and supporting JK Rowling when people called her transphobic with little reason (imo), but those instances could've definitely been bandwagoning and not geniunely caring about it. And as for how she acts in general, with being overly feminine and flanboyant, I don't find it too offensive. I know some girls who act that way in real life.
So it's OK for him to use racial slurs to refer to black people because other people do that too. It's OK for him to use slurs for lesbians because other people do that too. You'll support this man in his hatred for black people and women because other people do that too. Does it mean nothing to you that this man would use these terms in reference to you? Or is that OK because he calls out TRAs?
I just heard of Blair for the first time last night by a random suggested video and ended up watching a bunch of videos of her and in all of them I was like "WTF is up with all that hair fidgiting, it was so annoying"
That's just the beginning. And the voice. And the misogyny, implicit and explicit. What a painful goddamn experience.
I also found it extremely personal offensive and trigguring that in a video she said that anyone who uses terms like girl-cock or girl-dick is not a true mtf transgender but is just a fetishist.
I agree about the girlcock, ladydick bullshit.
As for true trans, is there a definition of trans yet that applies to all trans people?
I also agree about him the fetishism. That's why I can't tolerate these people.
I'm confused, I'm not sure what you are agreeing with or if you are agreeing with me or Blair. So you don't like terms like girlcock? And you agree that anyone who uses that term is a fetishist and not trans?
GC post: I’m not a fan of anti-feminists or right wingers. A broken clock is right twice a day, and I acknowledge that Blaire White’s platform brought attention to Jonathan Yaniv that it might have not otherwise gotten, and I do appreciate when trans people speak up about sexual predators and issues in the trans movement.
Overall I’m glad Blaire has a channel and content, it’s good to see a variety of opinions from trans people, I think Blaire is fairly well spoken and comes across as pretty normal. I just cannot disagree more with their politics, whereas I feel like with QT posters here I’d find common ground in probably 85% of their politics outside of where trans issues, gender, and women’s rights intersect.
I have affection for her... but her politics are reactionary and her personality is that of a gay man’s.
She’s very authentic, at least. I do think, when it comes to QT topics, she’s very brave to speak her mind, because we all deserve to talk genuinely about our experiences. Parroting others leads to cognitive dissonance and unhappiness.
Her videos on trans predators are strange (I’m GC but don’t like the Jonathan Yaniv fixation, I don’t think it’s very fair; this person is clearly not mentally well).
If she just did apolitical content, she’d be more likable. She specializes in mocking and bullying others tho... and while I can feel for her insecurities in a way, so much of it is actually misogynistic I guess.
Not a thing. Gay is not a personality
That’s a good note. *mannerisms, speech patterns, and gestures more commonly observed in gay men
Prove it.
Blaire objectifies herself through the male gaze; that strikes me as being a gay man’s interpretation of womanhood. The obsession with talking about how she’s better than non-passing trans women, because her body is so feminine, strikes me as a more socially masculine trait (competitiveness). Her performative mean girl attitude also makes her look like a gay man to me. (Which isn’t unfounded, as she did live part of her life as a gay man socially.)
She uses intonations and inflections that sound like how gay men speak. I’m not a linguist; I really can’t break it down for you. My closest friends are a combination of gay men and women, and her vocal flares remind me more of listening to my gay friends. That’s the subtlety of language - some minor distinctions cue your ears, just with how trans men all identifiably sound like women to me, even with deeper voices.
It’s willful ignorance to act like there aren’t clusters of social traits some (certainly not all) gay men have. I don’t think these are innate traits; I saw my gay male friends through puberty, and they selectively began incorporating inflections/patterns into their vocabulary and manner, because that’s part of how group identification socializes us.
These aren’t negative traits, and I’d say they’re why I even like her personality; she’s very cute and authentic. But I don’t think her mannerisms are womanly - i.e. like any natal woman I’ve ever known or seen.
Then all you're doing is showing your own biases and tendency to stereotype. There are no mannerisms that are womanly or manly only things that seem that way to some people because of essentialistic thinking.
They're referring to any and all traits that allow gaydar to work.
Gaydar is just relying on stereotypes.
In part, yes. And in part it relies on more subtle behaviours that only in-group members will recognize. And these differ completely for gay men and gay women. They also vary by culture. And not all gay people exhibit them.
But they do exist.
Nope it entirely relies on stereotyping, as does claiming that gay men and women have different ways of communicating. Stop treating those groups as monoliths.
There is some evidence that gaydar is real and unconscious.
Yes people can use stereotypes to navigate the world, They're still stereotypes though
JY displays creepy, pedophilic behavior and has destroyed the livelihoods of many women of colour. He absolutely should be called out, regardless of his mental health status.
I don’t think he should be exempt from criticism, but her videos take it too far (following Yaniv’s make-up tutorials, debating him at a point in which no one was his supporter).
You're defending a predator who liked to ask young girls for tampons in public restrooms, groomed young girls via twitter and loved nothing more than taking to her about her period. And then there's the wax-muh-ballz bullshit. Please explain why anyone should have any 'consideration' for Yaniv. Should we 'understand' why he assaulted a reporter and tried to sue another one for defamation? What about the perjury, when Yaniv lied in open court about having a female reproductive system capable of menstruation? Or, maybe we should feel sorry for him because he managed to acquire a taser.
Stooping to saying that I am defending a predator is very disheartening. I was targeted by a pedophile as a child. Please be aware that accusing others of that isn’t appropriate, with regard to context.
I don’t think Yaniv is beyond reproach just because he’s obviously cognitively delayed. I only meant that Blaire, and others, constantly bringing him up has struck me as being opportunistic and myopic—focusing on one maniac just because he’s accessible and hilarious to pick on.
It’s very entertaining, but I think you could just as easily, with some journalistic integrity, dive into the social and political dynamics that made this person behave this way, and get away with it, where he’s a component of the argument and not the entire focus. Or perhaps make him the focus, but do so in a professional manner - don’t make it about mockery, make it about holding this personal legally accountable, within the context of a legal system that is constantly failing women on this matter. (Especially in Canada, where Yaniv is from.)
I can concede that the fact this person hasn’t had his Twitter taken down where people like Lineham and Murphy have is evidence that maybe further action is needed. Blaire’s videos just didn’t seem very clever to me; more like “haha look at the freakish pervert” and then monetizing shirts saying ‘Was That a Moment For You?’ to underscore how funny it all is.
That's what you're doing, however. If you're upset that you're doing it, maybe you should stop.
That's what Yaniv does.
There was nothing in your comment to indicate that you had to deal with pedos in your childhood. While I'm sorry that you had to deal with this, I'm not going to give Yaniv a pass. He's a goddamn predator and you asking that we consider his mental state sounds a lot like someone telling women that they have to 'understand' the pervs motives and not focus on his abusive behavior. That's another hard 'no' from me.
On what are you basing this? Isn't Yaniv a programmer? Doesn't mean that he's not crazy as a shit-house rat, but he's not 'impaired'. He knows exactly what he's doing.
Why? Yaniv deserves all the censure that can be heaped on him. Much as I don't like Blaire White, far as I'm concerned, he can call out Yaniv til the end of the world. I don't feel bad at all for some creepy guy who believes it's his right to prey on young girls and run immigrant women out of their jobs.
Yaniv has maintained a high public profile. If he didn't want the publicity, he could lay low, wait for shit to die down. Or maybe stop harassing underage girls about their periods - that'd do alot to keep heat off him. Thing is, predators are gonna prey and if they do it in public someone's gonna say something about it. Why do you feel the need to protect this piece of shit?
Why? Period fetishists who prey on underage girls deserve to be mocked, piudly and often by as many people as possible. Again, much as I don't lie Blaire White, he can go right ahead and rag on Yaniv all he wants.
That's already been done. It's the dumbass Canadian stance on self-ID that led to this nonsense in the first place.
Now you're forcing me to say good things about Blaire White which I don't want to do. I'm all for mocking Yaniv, the more savagely the better. Yaniv needs to go to jail. I don't think Blaire White has broken the law, so he can go right ahead on. Again, why do you care about what anyone says about this vile pervert?
And? Are you saying that we shouldn't capitalize on the take-downs of pervs for moral reasons or that White shouldn't monetize the victimization of underage girls? I can get with the second part. The first? Go ahead.
I haven't seen the video you are talking about, can you elaborate on how this happened and why Yaniv not having supporters is a problem?
Clearly someone was supporting Yaniv, since he had followers on tiktok. Maybe the followers were just kids but that makes it even more important to call out the predator.
Blaire's "debate" was how JY got himself a weapons charge so I think it was productive, exposing him
Politics are trash, agree with on almost everything else.
Im a transmedicalist so i agree with some of her opinions, and i respect that she calls out problems in the trans community, hiwever she has body shamed people in the past, and also practiced other forms of bullying which is obviously not cool
The only things I liked about Blair White is when she really called out Yaviv for what he is(I honestly don't think he is a trans woman, but that is my opinion.) and that people should cool it with JK Rowling. Other then that, she seems like kind of a crappy person. She gets in way, way too many Youtube fights and makes fun of people too much for my liking.
Being a sex offender doesn't disqualify you from being trans. You can be both.
There’s some debate, even among non-GCs, as to whether or not JY is trans. Some people, like myself, (and like Blaire) think that he pretends to be trans in order to 1. Create drama/ get attention 2. To sexually assault women by trying to force them to touch his genitals ... see his case against a salon who refused to wax his balls for more.
I’m actually generally pro-trans, or at least not GC, I never misgender anyone on purpose, but personally I don’t believe Jessica is a trans woman, just a disgusting (male) person.
I am GC and I appreciate Blaire for his anti-TRA content and see him a voice of reason for the trans community. I don't personally like his right wing and anti-feminist views.
I struggle to see him as a woman though and I find his manners more consistent with a gay man than a woman, he acts very much like gay male beauty YouTubers. It's this very artificial and overly sexualised idea of femininity which I don't really like.
So just see him as a man, which he is.
How often do you watch his videos?
I've seen most of his videos from the last year.
Here's what I don't get: he has right-wing anti-feminist views and has this over-sexualized persona that you don't like, and yet you've watched most of his videos from the last year. Why? Sounds like masochism, to tell you the truth.
Because I agree with his views on trans issues. You know it's possible to watch someone's videos even if you don't agree on everything, right?
You know supporting misogynist MRA's who LARP as women isn't the only way to get your entertainment fix, right?
I think that Blaire does a lot of fake stuff just to get views so while she's entertaining and sometimes uses her popularity for good she's sometimes hard to watch. She's promoted Rose of Dawn on her channel before and I'd say Rose is a more down to earth option if you like some things about Blaire
Sometimes I find her entertaining, but she does have a lot of shitty views. Her bad takes on race bother me the most.
So why do you support this individual by watching his videos? You admit that he has 'shitty views' and 'bad takes on race' but you keep tuning in and being entertained by a hateful racist. How does that make sense?
Same reason I take non-essential drives even though that means buying more gas and funding horrible shit with my purchase. Same reason I own an iPhone. Selfishness.
I don’t attach special symbolic significance to the pennies my views give problematic content creators.
You didn't answer the question about how you're able to find a hateful racist entertaining. That's what I'm curious about.
Regardless of your views on symbolic significance, you're supporting this guy even if he never got a dime, by being part of his audience. Why are you part of a racist with 'shitty views'? Those are your words.
I dunno, same way I can still enjoy a performance by Mel Gibson or a podcast by Dan Savage. Compartmentalization. And there are issues where she’s challenged my views and made me consider things I hadn’t before (like why there might be tension between binary and non-binary trans people).
Outside of the concrete (money, validation because of a view numbers) I don’t know what “support” even means in this context. And for those two things my contribution is trivial (basically nonexistent in terms of money, with stuff shifting to merch and Patreon).
I just explained that you 'support' this individual simply by being part of his audience.
I can't do Mel Gibson or Dan Savage because of their shitty views. It's a symptom of privilege that you can share your mental space with racists and misogynists because you know that none of the shit they spew will get on you. For black/brown people and women, this shit has direct implications for our quality of life. Must be nice for you to know that their 'shitty views' have no effect on how people see you.
Same way I can enjoy a Dan Savage podcast or a Robert Downey Jr film. Compartmentalization.
Do you find it impossible to enjoy anything produced (with any sort of creative input) by a person who has shitty views?
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I agree with him on a couple of things, but I also agree with Trump that water is wet.
That doesn't make either of these individuals someone I like or support.
White might have some more reasonable take on transgenderism than the regular TRA, b he is still using womanhood as a costume.
He makes some good points sometimes, especially on TRAs. I appreciate seeing a transmedicalist who is so popular amongst all the transgenderists/queer theorists. He can be a good source of information for young and vulnerable dysphoric people. I disagree with him on some other points, which is absolutely fine and normal. Everything he has ever said shouldn't be dismissed just because he has some different views than mine on some subjects.
Some of his content is good but he likes to play 'the mean girl' too much and it irritates me. Also he is very right wing.
I appreciate that he's called out trans predators-- most of the community tends to brush off people like JY or the Gamestop transwoman (who is also pedophilic). But Blaire is a racist right-winger so I can't say I support him.
When did Blaire use slurs other than t*anny or f*ggot, which both apply to him?
D*ke and the n word
Yikes. I'm not surprised tho
I don’t know about ‘d*ke’ but from what I gather, she’s said she shouts out the N-word in frustration sometimes because it’s ‘the worst word she can think of’ and would never actually call a black person that. It’s a bit iffy but venial in my book.
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You buy that bullshit? Seriously? It's the first word he can think of? What a stinking pile of shit. I can't believe anyone buys this. Now I have even less respect for this guy and for people who patronize him.
He has made a lot of great videos on trans issues and calling out predators, and it's fun to watch TRAs who debate him get their asses handed to them... But he has god-awful takes on feminism and is a major hypocrite. Like, he criticizes taking in refugees because of their sexist/homophobic cultures but turned into the utmost defender of immigrants and their cultural customs in his debate with Yaniv. And he brings up the plight of women in third-world countries, but only when he wants to make Western feminists look privileged and stupid. He criticized feminists for thinking Trump is bad for women, because America is so post-feminist and Middle Eastern women are the REAL victims, but he didn't make the connection that Trump's immigration policies harm these women who desperately need asylum. He also denies that pro-lifery has anything to do with sexism.
I’m glad to hear about the weapon’s charge (as I was pretty freaked out myself to see him whip that thing out lol). I’ll explain on another comment why I saw there as being an optics problem with Blaire’s engagement.
Pros: calls out trans predators and talks about dangers of self-ID.
Cons: everything else.