I commented in a private gender critical Facebook group post about a conversation someone had had with a friend about trans women in women’s locker rooms bs lesbians in women’s locker rooms. I commented that “men in women’s locker rooms are like a fox in a hen house. I’m not afraid of a lesbian seeing me but I am afraid of a man assaulting me or leaving out.” I just got a notification that I have a 24 hour mute on Facebook and my next violation will result in a 3 day ban. I’ve seen so many posts on Facebook that are anti-woman and threatening to radical feminists. I’m not surprised just frustrated at the double standard.

1. "The gender binary is a Western construct, and before Europeans pushed this on colonized peoples, the rest of the world was a paradise for alternative gender identities!"

Are you suggesting people of color are too stupid to recognize the difference between male and female people? Are you suggesting that before Europeans entered the picture, people of color were randomly having sex until, by chance, they encountered an opposite-sex person with whom to have children? Do you recognize that in non-Western cultures, identities such as Hijra and Two-Spirit were almost always used to shuffle GNC men into an alternative category, but no such thing existed for women, which shows that these categories existed to penalize and segregate men who deviated from societally-constructed masculinity?

2. "Denying trans women their womanhood is a white feminist viewpoint and it is racist, because it prioritizes a white Western view of womanhood!"

Are you suggesting that women of color are not capable of critical analysis and that only white women are able to see the ways in which their experience as women is shaped by oppression due to biological sex? Are you suggesting women of color are like mindless sheep who will go with any talking point you put out and cannot dissect them? It sounds to me like you have a very low view of the intellectual capacities of women of color which makes you racist.

3. "Society treated Black women as if they weren't female, so denying trans women their womanhood is exactly the same, white women gatekeeping womanhood and deciding who does and doesn't count!"

White supremacist societies pushed the idea that Black women were not feminine and not worthy of protection in order to justify enslaving, raping, and murdering them, to suggest that they were not worthy of safety and protection, because they were BLACK. Yet Black women were exploited by the scientific and medical communities to make medical advancements through nonconsensual testing, vaccinations, and study of the female anatomy which indicates that everyone knew Black women were women even if they were not afforded safety and protection. And since when are women in general afforded either of those? TIMs are male, which is why they are not women, because women are adult human females.

4. "Segregating people based on biological sex is exactly like segregating them based on race -- separate but equal!"

Black people were segregated from whites with no justifiable reason. Black people do not pose an imminent danger to white people. Male people do pose an imminent danger to female people regardless of how they identify, and there is no statistical evidence which suggests otherwise. Sex-segregated spaces exist to protect women from male violence, while racially-segregated spaces existed to inhibit interracial relationships and to keep the white race "pure." There is no parallel to be drawn here.

Hi. I've been thinking about making this post for quite a while. I just want to know is it just me or is it common.

I'm being... stumbled into all the time. I'm 165cm(5'4) so I guess my height is average? I noticed I developed a whole skill of dodging when it comes to being careful in enclosed spaces, because people just don't seem to remember I take space. They may turn around suddenly and push me, step on my feet. My father is a whole other article. He be literally standing in the doorway with his hands on his hips making everyone duck and dodge. In the streets I'm always the one giving way and walking to the side because otherwise I'd be constantly bumping into bypassers. I did make a little social experiement, I'd just walk normally and see if the other person walking towards me would give way or expect me to step aside, I think you can guess the results for men and women respectively. Still, maybe it's just me, I honestly don't know how to articulate it. I'm not speaking about casual inattentiveness, obviously sometimes I don't notice what's going on around me, but it is as if people were almost sure they can just ignore me being somewhere and walk over

I haven't read it in a few years and this really tickled me today (bolding by me):

The male claim that females find fulfillment through

motherhood and sexuality reflects what males think they'd find fulfilling if they were female.

Women, in other words, don't have penis envy; men have pussy envy. When the male accepts his passivity, defines himself as a woman (males as well as females thing men are women and women are men), and becomes a transvestite he loses his desire to screw (or to do anything else, for that matter; he fulfills himself as a drag queen) and gets his dick chopped off. He then achieves a continuous diffuse sexual feeling from `being a woman'. Screwing is, for a man, a defense against his desire to be female.

Love it.

I keep seeing allies of trans people saying things like "Trans women are beautiful, trans womanhood is limitless, trans women are pioneers of LGB rights, trans women are beacons of light and hope in a dark oppressive world" etc.

Do they actually believe this? Are they saying it to be performative?

I never was an "ally" but at one point I was sympathetic to their struggle and either remained silent or made posts on social media about how I empathized when the trans military ban went into effect, or when someone was killed. But I never went on about how perfect TIMs are.

What is their motivation? I'm asking out of bewilderment, not mockery (although it is laughable and I want to mock it too).

Does anyone have a link to a twitter thread or a compilation of articles/tweets/videos of TRAs (especially ones with platforms) denying biological sex, claiming it's not binary etc?

I'm so tired of the gaslighting and them constantly claiming that no one is denying science..

Thanks a lot in advance!

There is no inbetween. I feel angry when people tell me that I'm a "wonderful mother" like it's a compliment. I usually just respond with "I'm an adequate mother and I'm certainly not wonderful". People usually tell me not to be so negative.

Why can't a woman just be an adequate mother and not be wonderful to be accepted?

When people put you on a pedestal it's easy to fall off and it puts you in the spotlight.

Why does a woman either have to be on a pedestal for being a mother or the worst mother in the world who is completely undeserving and unfit?

It's not enough to say a woman can adequately care for her child and has her ups and downs like any other normal human being.

Such a woman would be a "bad mother" in the eyes of society.

It's either all or it's nothing.

I am so exhausted from trying to respond to all of the anti-blackness I have witnessed in this group. I joined the group because I appreciate that you ladies were the only voice of reason regarding topics of transgenderism and the liberation of women.

But I can see that for many of you your racial background or identity of being white, is far more powerful the reason and the want to support black women and their liberation too.

Reading a lot of you comments on racial issue really disappointed me and has really led me to being that white feminist really want what is best for white women. They don’t care bout how the racial component effects me as a black women.

And I hate to say it, white fragility is alive and well here. I am not here to silence anyone, because hey, it’s y’all group I guess. I am just a visitor in your world.

But, a lot of you really let me down in a big way today.

I have a cousin who's six. He's really in to "feminine" stuff and has "feminine" mannerisms (hate to stereotype cos being feminine is a personality trait, not anything to do with gender, but ya). He's started to get bullied for wearing girl clothes and stuff but I'm not sure he understands it yet. None of this was a problem until he told my aunt "I know I'm a boy now, but when I'm grown up I'm going to be a girl". And he keeps talking about how he's female not male. He's always been this way, but expressing wanting to be female is new.

Keep in mind this is a six year old kid, so not the usual case of an autogynephilic transgender male who is porn sick and watches a ton of lesbian porn and now thinks he's a gorgeous girly cat girl, despite the rest of the world seeing a non passing, ugly creepy pervert. This is a kid. He has a brother who's a year and a half older and not this way at all. My aunt doesn't encourage it, but she doesn't discourage it either. What would cause a kid to be this way? Having autism runs in the family, I was diagnosed with high functioning autism as a kid, the brother is being tested and a few other family members have it but idk if he does. Could autism symptoms cause it? Do you reckon it's a phase or will he grow up transgender?

Which collection of essays is it contained in? And what is the name of the essay itself? Thank you.

GC automod does not allow post that are “too short.” So I’ll use this space to recommend that everyone on the sub read Marilyn Frye, if they have not already. I see so many misconceptions about separatism here. I wonder how members of this sub think that the trans cult can be deconstructed and overthrown without at least a nod to concepts such as compulsory heterosexuality, performative femininity, and female separatism.

I recently found out my (now ex) boyfriend stands against JKR and is unwilling/unable to thoughtfully explain why. All he's said is that what she said was hurtful and insensitive to the trans community. He kept deflecting when I would try to pry on the issue that he knows is my specialty, he would give me a "meeehhh you're attacking me". In honor of our break up today and me getting mobbed on by TRAs on FB (I fought the good fight), I would like to share (what I think is) a funny story about him.

He told me once that he went on a tinder date with what he thought was a woman. When it came to having sex, she didn't tell him she was trans and he just had sex with her because he was afraid of coming off as transphobic and didn't know how to exit the situation. From what I was able to pull out of him, he didn't seem into it. He didn't have the emotional maturity to keep up with me or else I would have dissected the shit out the story and probably would have made him feel like a piece of shit. But I knew he would just feel cornered and he would withdraw. So I didn't get deep into it.

You guys, I feel GREAT about my move to break up with him! I don't feel a single ounce of regret. Aside from not having aligned values, he was an emotionally abusive asshole. BYE.

As a wise tweet once told me, "fool me once, shame on you, fool me 53 times, you got good dick." 😅

Edit: Pre-op trans woman*** He straight up had sex with a dude. He is a wOkE straight man.

I'm tired of hearing TRAs hollering about how "science" is on their side when they claim that biological sex either a) doesn't exist or b) exists, but on a spectrum.

But I'm wondering (since they never actually refer to it): What is this alleged "science" that they're claiming? Can anybody point me to a summary of the arguments -- and maybe a rebuttal?

(Actual studies are fine. I have a master's degree -- in science! -- so don't be afraid to nerd out.)

I have tried extremely hard to not feel this way. I've given men every chance I possibly can. I have not ever felt like I had a reason to be angry at men. I always thought it was my fault.

-My dad is a misogynist. Don't ask me how I know this, but he was abused as a little boy and that has mad him completely fucked up when it comes to women. Don't ask me how I know THIS as well, but he forced my mom into BDSM. She hated it. When she tried to get out of it, he drove them 4 hours to see a BDSM counselor that told her how "empowering" it would be. She divorced him, but developed schizoaffective disorder after that. She has psychosis yearly now. Funny thing about her psychosis, it is ALWAYS revolved around delusions of disgusting sex acts and fear of my father raping me. (I believe that the stress from being abused for years made her crack). She now depends on my father who was "gracious" enough to accept her back, and he is the poor, perfect angel for allowing her to live under the same roof.

-I was coercively raped repeatedly by my first boyfriend. I did not call this rape until 10 years after the fact, because I never felt it was bad enough to be rape. He told me I was "ready" to have sex and so had sex with me. I went along willingly enough I suppose. If I didn't have sex with him, he would punish me and refuse to speak with me until I gave in. I started to cry during sex, which he would ignore and force me to turnover so he didn't have to look at me. I would cry afterwards and he would tell me to shut up. He started leaving a bottle of vodka in the bathroom so that I could drink myself to sleep afterwards and he wouldn't have to deal with me. I had flashbacks nightly, waking up screaming and in terror, all throughout high school.

The reason I was finally able to call it rape is because I learned that he had been charged, (but the girl had dismissed) a rape case before meeting me. Situation involved him leaving a girl passed out and bloody in the back of a movie theater.

-My father found out that I had sex and was drinking, and told me I was no longer his "little princess" and how disgusted he was in me. I had grown up looking up to him and my brother, where partying, drinking, even doing drugs was seen as "cool." I asked him why it was okay for him and my brother, at which point he chased me into the bathroom where I locked my door as he screamed and pounded to come in. I left through a window.

-Because of my first relationship, I found it impossible to say no when I was having sex. I found it impossible to do anything. I would simply freeze. Queue several experiences of me freezing before my pants are even pulled off, but men having sex with me anyways. I never thought there was anything wrong with that, and simply blamed it on me for not telling them I was panicking. I imagine this is what men call "starfishing."

-In relationship, even after talking about trauma, men punish me for my trauma responses. This is what happens, we start having sex, I freeze and completely dissociate. I become terrified, and try to act like everything is okay, but eventually my mind leaves my body. My mind has not come back to my body even after the act. I cannot respond to men's questions or inquiries. That is when they start screaming at me. Screaming or even leaving because they are "done with it." This has happened in 5 different relationship, and each of them were informed of my responses beforehand. My conjecture is that they notice midway I'm not into it, and then have to face the reality that they didn't stop afterwards. Instead of feeling compassion or caring for me, they misplace their guilt for fucking a limp body onto me as if I forced them to do it.

-I was sexually harassed constantly at my job. I began to get disgusting texts from men and had to take leave from the stress. HR refused to do anything and I ended up leaving the job. (this was before the metoo movement, the company has recently been under fire for sexual harassment).

-My last psychiatrist told me I was bipolar and medicated me for 5 years. He diagnosed me in under 15 minutes. He was a rare doctor that was also a psychoanalyst. I thought he was a god, essentially. I thought him commenting on my looks was just trying to build up my self esteem. He told me the reason I was afraid of women was because I was simply competing with them for men's attention (nothing to do with my psychotic mother!) He encouraged some of the most abusive relationships ever. A man I had never met wanted to meet me and get married and pressured me to have children within 2 weeks of talking to him, who lived half way across the country, for instance. My therapist said that I should do it. This is just one of the many situations he encouraged. I recently went in for thorough psychological testing (3 days of tests) and was told I have nothing wrong with me. He started going on about the wonders of Sigmun Freud, who I looked up, and who is one of the most misogynistic pieces of crap. The only time I have been "manic" according to this doctor was the one time I tried to leave my abusive boyfriend.

So there you go, that pretty much rounds up any significant male relationships. And yet I still have men telling me that they are the victims. I'm living with my boyfriend of 8 years--who was one of the ones who screamed at me for sex. He's done a million other things that are beyond fucked up that I don't want to go into here. But I feel like my mother, I've been utterly destroyed by men--I depend on him financially. Either that or I go back to my parents house and listen to my dad's misogynistic and racist BS.

Before the doctor, even with all of the trauma, I was doing really well--had been promoted multiple times, was number one in my department... etc. As soon as I started seeing him, he pathologized my trauma and said it was a mental illness, put me on drugs that gave me seizures and took away all short term memory. This is when men at work really ramped up their harassment, texting, among other things, questions like "If I licked your pussy, would I get hair stuck in my teeth?" For some reason, seeing me struggle at work really ramped up their predatory nature and I quit.

Men traumatize us, then use that trauma as evidence that we're "crazy," then we become dependent on the very ones that fucked us up to begin with.

I'm not sure if this was the right place to post this. I can't think of anywhere else that would allow me to say I fucking HATE men and not scream at me about "not all men." Can you please fucking point out to me even ONE man in my life that has not been an absolute predator?

Something I remembered of my time in the TRAscape while showering today.

I recall seeing multiple posts saying things along the lines of “When you say f**k gender roles, keep in mind the trans folk who want to keep gender roles and use them for transition!! You’re valid!! Please be sensitive to them!!! UwU” with hundreds of the “THIS” and “👏👏 YES” responses. Just a little tidbit that stuck with me even after I cast off the trans title and peaked that shows how backwards and regressive that community is.

I find that in my career field I am not taken as seriously as my male colleagues, including those who have been in this field for much longer than I have but have far less knowledge and technical skills than I do. I find I am often teaching my "superiors" how to do their jobs. Yet, I am presumed less competent both by these men and by clients because of my sex.

I have a female variant of a common male name and if I wanted to, could easily shorten it to a nickname on my emails so that no one could immediately guess that I was a woman. If I was forced to declare my pronouns in my signature, it would reveal that I was a woman and defeat the entire purpose.

No man will ever be treated as lesser than or assumed to be incompetent for putting "he/his" in his email signature. Putting pronouns only harms women because it publicizes our sex for all to see and decide they do not wish to work with us or take us seriously if they could work with a man (no matter how much less qualified he is) instead.

I’m an educated girl. Recently graduated med school. My two best friends (who are more like my soul mates) are proud gay men. I was the SJW type all through secondary and high school (I was that girl that told the teacher off in front of the front class in our catholic school when they made a homophobic comment), although I was never the “trans women are women” type (something never really clicked for me about it), which is the reason I think I made friends with mainly LGBT people during my adolescent years. I type all this for context.

But since this year, I’ve started thinking really hard about the LGBT collective and their misogyny, seeing it so often in my friends discourse both off and online. That’s when I ran into radical feminism, of the more “gender critical” variety. I started getting educated but I’m still pretty new to it, and still I can affirm I’ve found my political stance in radical feminism. It’s all so obvious, how can could I have bought into my friends and the whole LGBT misogynist rethoric? My friends do not accept this and we’ve had HEATED discussions about it (there’s just no budging in their thinking that TWAW, even though they are both male and I’m a woman, they pretend to tell me what being a woman is)

I should also mention, I’ve followed a lot of trans online content creators for years now. So the tired argument my friends have that I only consume radical feminist GC content is incorrect. As a person that has studied the subject, and has a particular affinity towards psychiatry, I think “trans medicalism” is somewhat acceptable, and definitely the most rational portion of the gender ideology. But seeing these creators and how they talk about their life experiences, as well as getting to know the few trans people I know IRL, I’ve started noticing a pattern.

I apologize if this has been already extensively discussed in the GC community, but as I said I’m pretty new and I’m really REALLY interested in hearing some other perspectives that aren’t my LGBT friends’ obviously biased ones (my best friends say they are ferociously defensive of the trans community cause the pain it has felt is very close to the one their own community felt), so please “hear me out”: does it make sense to anyone else that “straight” trans women are just “little horny gay boys” that transition to gain access to the straight men market (Which, if anyone here has a close friend that’s a gay man, you know it’s a struggle gay men face for liking straight men) and “trans lesbians” are just “creepy straight men” trying to get access to lesbian dating scenes?

I built up the courage to write this because the more I see it, the more obvious it is to me. And I’ve had enough of seeing the OBVIOUS tones of homophobia and misogyny the trans community endorses EVERY DAY and people just supporting them every step of the way while throwing actual women under the bus.

PS1: Sorry for the long post. All I can say is it could’ve been a LOT longer lol

PS2: I didn’t mean to offend anyone, hope I didn’t and if I did please let me know so I can edit immediately

PS3: Sorry if my spelling or grammar is poor, English is not my native language

PS4: Most (if not all) the radfems I’ve read here and in other places online are always super nice and educated women, I just wanna thank you for making me wanna stop being silent!

Don't like gender roles and you want to be treated like you are competent? Identify out of a being a woman! It is perfectly smart to transition to being a man so that you can be treated as a full human and not be assaulted(ignoring that men absolutely do get assaulted by other men but that is another story) IF anyone is not okay with calling you zie or they it should be perfectly ok to try to get them fired of destroy their social life!

You have to think sex work is work. Who cares if it is proven to be detrimental to girls and women! Some men and women want to have sex for money and that is their choice! Tou are not allowed to have a negative opinion about this choice! I feel like second wave feminism was actually about empowering people and wanting to be the best you could be....this new liberalism though, is just incredibly self centered.

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I constantly see this language being used to describe hormone treatments and "gender reassignment" surgeries.

I believe all human beings are entitled to life-saving healthcare, such as cancer treatments, heart surgery, kidney transplants, and any other medical care that will prevent one from dying. Whether they are trans or not.

But calling trans-specific medical intervention "life-saving" is another version of the trans suicide myth and exists to simply guilt us as the general public or people who pay insurance premiums, into paying for trans-specific medical care or we are responsible for suicide. I find it manipulative and disingenuous and I wish this language would stop being used.

I have been relatively against anti-trans talk.

Something in that documentary made me snap.

I’m not sure what it was and I don’t know how to unpack it. I think it was a trans woman who was horrified at watching a trans woman in a movie get raped.

I thought about all of the instances I’ve had to watch of women being raped on media, as a rape victim. I’m “sensitive” when I have to leave the room. It’s all over.

So why couldn’t they talk about the fact that WOMEN are raped on screen far more often than men? Why did it have to be a trans issue? Why is it the fact that she was “trans” make it so horrific? I have had to flashback constantly in rape scenes and just accept that it’s part of the narrative. Guess what? If you want to be a woman, welcome to womanhood.

And then I talked to my boyfriend about it and he was like “I don’t even remember the last time I saw a rape scene in a movie, what is going on with you?” Because I was overreacting.

Of course you didn’t, you don’t have to fucking watch your trauma on screen weekly. It just bypasses you. Seems like men can’t sympathize with rape until they transition into women and our able to see that it could now happen to them.

Are you actually fucking kidding me, I may have to revisit this in the morning when I'm calmer but WHAT?

"Recently, of course we saw people like JK Rowling suing her own sexual assault as justification for discrimination against a group of people who were not responsible for it" -Lloyd Russell-Moyle

Did he even bother to read what she wrote?

When can we bring up our sexual assaults and our rapes and the times that men have belittled us and made us feel worthless and inhuman? Because it feels like never is the only answer they'll accept. If you bringit up when everything is 'fine' then you're just dragging the mood down or bringing up old news. But use it to illustrate a point that YES THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN then you're weaponizing it and that's a BAD THING.

So far I can only find a DM link to (we we can't use here) it but Julie Bindel has screenshots on her twitter (I'm not sure if that's OK to link to?)

Please make the madness stop!

He doesn't look like a woman, is not a woman, and I am sick of seeing him celebrated when there are many beautiful and talented Black women who should be on that billboard especially now. People keep commenting how "beautiful" he is and how "brave" it is that he is being his "authentic self" for all to see but I am so sick of seeing it.

Are most men pedophiles? (research)

This post is not my own. I wanted to share something from PsychForums that may be interesting. Ive always wondered if it was possible that most men are attracted to children and deny it. I mean just a few hundred years ago hebophilic marriages of older men in their 20s to women 12- were in the norm, and still are in a lot of rural areas.

https://www.psychforums.com/paraphilias/topic98556.html

http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/97 ... ticle.html

Based on objective studies, rather than anecdotal evidence and adamant denial rants (which mean nothing), about 90% of men are attracted to preteen girls.

A peer-reviewed scientific journal study (Behavior Therapy 26, 681-694, 1995), conducted by Kent State University, 1995 (Lori L. Oliver, Gordon C. Nagayama, Richard Hirschman) was conducted on a sample of normal (adult attracted) male volunteers using the "penile plethysmograph".

The team carried out hundreds of tests exposing men to female adult and child images. 95% exhibited arousal to the female adult images.

A staggering 88.7% exhibited arousal to the female child (less than 12 years old) images.

Prior to the study, 80% of the participants claimed to have no attraction to children and all of them had no history of illegal or legal youth attracted behavior.

Furthermore, the author also notes this:

Over 1/4 of the current subjects self-reported pedophilic interest or exhibited penile arousal to pedophilic stimuli that equaled or exceeded arousal to adult stimuli.”

However, “Eighty subjects completed the study”.

Thoughts?

This documentary made me sob, but knowing that at least a few perpetrators were brought to justice is great.

This was a top down problem- people caring more about money and medals than about the young girls who were in their care. My stomach is sick for these girls and I hope they can find peace.

How can we change this view that girls and women are dispensable, which is at the root of not just USAG but our society?

I peaked with JKR, and the more I read the more infuriated I get with all the hypocrisy and double standards (don’t get me started on how misgendering trans people is on par with criminal acts, but somehow it’s ok to call me cis and a TERF when I ~identify~ as neither). Never mind whether you think trans women are women or trans women are men or whatever your argument is, in WHAT other context do we take people purely on their words???

In dating advice, do we tell women, a man is who he says he is? No, we tell women, pay attention to actions.

In job interview settings, no one gets to say, I identify as a programmer (with no programming experience), and force people to hire them on their word alone.

Even in LGB, I hear people complain about how bisexual people are disbelieved if they’ve only had relationships with one sex, as well as the whole concept of “gold star lesbians,” how someone is somehow less of a lesbian if they experimented with men in the past.

How come in every other situation, how you are perceived is more important than the words you choose to define yourself with, but somehow this is different?

After the recent police killings, it’s more important than ever to state the importance of Black lives. But why haven’t we heard “Black gay lives matter”? or “Black LGBT lives matter”? Why it is only about trans

I got banned for participating the last one posted 4 days ago here

And today i find another one posted about Graham Lineham from Father Ted getting banned off of twitter

They are always extremely active threads but 99% trans positive. Anything anti-trans or not really supportive of trans gets downvoted to hell. I notice a lot of user's appear to be from around the world, rather than the UK.

After getting banned because i crossposted the Drag Queen thread, i spoke to the moderators who seemed to HINT that they were aware of a problem with TRA's essentially brigading /r/uk but also indicated they had a "problem" with GC'ers.

Any /r/UK user's here may have noticed the same thing? Im pretty sure this shit is being coordinated but not so sure of their purpose other than trying to get positive exposure? To try and write the narrative that they are victims before anyone who is GC can argue the point that they are actually the victimizers?

Im hella frustrated seeing that shit on there. Mod's should absolutely ban any link to "Pink-News" ffs.

Also, they go after Mumsnet quite viciously in both threads, a few bites of JKR here and there in both also.

It just dawned on me that all the TIM rage going around is just (in part) a response to not being able to get laid.

TIMs decided that the LGB community was a gaggle of sexual deviants based on their own prejudices. This had them crawling out of their parents basements to perform their crossdressing shows for the rest of us. We were horrified, but our culture is one of acceptance and joviality... so we let them in.

A few years later, they’ve colonised us. But they were never gay men or lesbians... so we didn’t want to have sex with them. Bisexuals also wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole. Cue the rage, and them calling everyone names. Throwing tantrums etc.

They waltzed into a community and took advantage of its good will, then comically got enraged because they are completely undesirable. Now their demands are effecting laws pertaining to the safety of women worldwide, and they’re erasing female experience one childish action at a time.

Men are accustomed to demanding sex. That’s all they’re doing all over again... just with dresses and Ronald McDonald hair styles.

I really want to just be a good ally and have wanted to understand it for a while but I can't. Looking like a man/woman is so different throughout history and throughout different cultures that claiming you're the opposite sex because you want to look like them is ridiculous. If it's because you want to be seen as a man or a woman, that's based entirely on socialisation and how we wrongly treat men and women differently. When men are transwomen, they grow their hair out and wear make up. They wear dresses or other feminine clothing. But not all women do this, and that doesn't make them lesser women.

I just don't understand why trans people exist at all. Why can't they just dress up however they want without saying they're literally the opposite sex when that clearly isn't true? I can ask this on any of the trans subs and no one trans wants to discuss this with me. I understand gender dysphoria making you hate your body but how is that different from an anorexic with body dysmorphia hating their body and therefore wanting to lose weight?

Is it me, or does it seem like the trans movement is just about male obsession with sex? I know most of them (males) claim it’s testosterone that does this, but trans women (who purposefully lower T levels) seem to be equally obsessed with getting f*cked. Listen, I like sex like everyone else but it _does_ _not_ _rule_ _my_ _life_ like it seems to for a lot of straight/gay males and everyone in the queer/poly movement. Totally get being oriented to certain people for sexual reasons but to form a “human rights campaign” over your body envy and associated sexual unhappiness/entitlement seems batshit.

Why are so many MEN and some women, so obsessed with sex/fetishes? It seems truly unhealthy and compulsive and WEIRD. We could be solving world hunger not talking about surgically created parts and delusions we are the sex we are obviously NOT. They just seem bored, self-obsessed, and unsure of how to be decent citizens of the world who have a sense of real purpose and meaning in their lives.

I have 4 kids. The first three had their sex identified the old fashioned way, through ultrasound and observation at birth. The 4th baby was a later in life surprise and due to my relatively older age (late 30’s) and health issues, I underwent significantly more prenatal testing with him, including bloodwork that looked for various genetic abnormalities and provided the sex, male. This bloodwork was done when I was about 12 weeks pregnant. This bloodwork didn’t know whether my son would come out with a penis, a vagina, or something in between, yet it could tell the fetus in my body was male. My other kids could honestly all be mis-sexed, although I doubt it, but no matter what my last child decides later in life, he is definitely genetically male.

For those arguing that sex isn’t real, are they truly arguing about the small percentage of people with disorders like Turners, Klinefelter, Swyer, XX male, etc? Or are they saying most people don’t know their chromosomes? Or chromosomes aren’t real? Since they are convinced many more people are misidentified and don’t know it, shouldn’t they be pushing this bloodwork that wasn’t available in the past?

Throwaway for reasons and trigger/content warnings

I know this is a touchy area for a lot of women and possibly triggering. I’m sorry. I don’t mean to be insensitive or to take over the conversation with my obviously (comparatively) minor experience. I just needed to talk about it somewhere and hear from some other women that I'm not completely crazy for feeling like I do.

Last night, my husband went to bed before I did (as usual). When I went to bed, I changed into a pair of loose cotton shorts and a tank top, purely for comfort, nothing sexy. He rolled over when I got into bed and felt my leg, and started rubbing on my leg like he’d realized I was wearing shorts. I could tell that he was either awake or waking up, but I was exhausted and not even a little bit interested in sex at that point. I just wanted to go to sleep, so I moved my leg away from him and tucked the blanket around myself. I figured he’d go back to sleep.

He didn’t. He pushed the blanket away and started groping more. I moved his hand back off and tucked the blanket tighter around me, making a sort of blanket burrito. He dug under the burrito and continued. I pushed him off me, tried to roll him over, thinking that he was still partly or mostly asleep, and not really aware of what he was doing. Then I cuddled into his back to keep him on his side, facing away. That didn’t work. He was bound and determined to have sex.

And we did. I did not say no, but I did not want to have sex. I made it really clear every damn step of the way, from the interactions I described to every part after that (which I won’t describe for your peace of mind). I had an orgasm, though, which I’m sure he took as a positive thing. I don’t know if it was positive on my end. I wasn’t into any of it, and I didn’t want it, and the actual intercourse was painful because I was tense and dry.

When we got up this morning, he made a comment about how wonderful it was and how sexy I am and blahblahblah.

For more perspective, we’ve been married a long time. Think decades, not years or months. He’s not what I’ve ever considered a bad man or an inconsiderate husband (or even a selfish lover). He’s always been kind and thoughtful. He generally goes out of his way to understand other people’s viewpoints. This was unexpected, shocking, and disquieting.

At any rate … I hesitate to put “unwanted sex” between a husband and wife in an otherwise decent relationship into anywhere near the same category as what my gut tells me this was. Every time I think of it, though, my eyes well up and I feel sick inside. I’m struggling, hard, and I don’t want to be around him. I don’t want to look at him, don’t want to talk to him, don’t want to interact with him on any level. If I confront him about it, I already know how he'll react -- he'll make it all about him and his feelings, and then I'm going to be in a position where I have to appease him. I can't and won't.

I told him this morning that I just wanted to sleep. “I know you did, but you didn’t say no.” No, I didn’t. I also didn’t say yes, and I made it as clear as I could that I didn’t want sex. I did everything I could to get you off me. None of that mattered. He wanted what he wanted.

So it was what it was, and it was at least partly my fault because I didn’t say no.

I don't know where to go from here.

TWAW doesn’t make sense. They wouldn’t be a trans woman if they weren’t trans, which they know means they have the wrong genitalia and chromosomes,so by calling themselves trans aren’t they acknowledging biology as a fact?

If they are in fact women then why do they get offended by female specific language or other women talking about their experiences? What kind of ‘oppressed’ class silences others, has major backing and has everyone kissing their feet? Furthermore, when someone trans does something clearly wrong they say that they aren’t actually trans, which goes against their whole ‘misgendering is murder’ thing. ~ Like, wow. You’re invalidating their reality? Sounds kinda terfy to me ~

It’s just getting ridiculous at this point. So thankful for this sub

I don’t totally understand how someone gets GID... but isn’t it inherently sexist to “feel like” you are a boy or girl? How do 2 year olds (Jazz Jennings for example) “feel like” they are a woman? I have read stories where young children (toddlers) hated their penises and “knew” they were a woman. Can someone explain this? Preferably someone on here with more knowledge on GID? Thanks!!

I realize this stems from a deep dissatisfaction and hatred of my body and being female, and that formal transition will not change reality. But how does anyone else deal with this? I don’t think I could live ethically as a man, and claiming to be male, but I truly do not see how I can live as a female in a female body for the remainder of my life.

Does anyone else struggle with this?

Genderqueer
Non-binary”
Demi-sexual”

Giving pronouns (she/her AND they/them ooooooh)

...nearly every single one of these posts is about what kind of clothes they like to wear or normal human stuff like “I don’t want to have sex with strangers.”

...am I the only one seeing this?

Please read the post on a sister reddit LGBdroptheT about Alison Bailey. She is suing the Stonewall group for having her investigated at her work bc she formed an LGB alliance apart from them. She is raising funds to sue them and her page was removed!! This is getting nuts! Here is the archived page with the full story: http://archive.vn/rvuNX

I am just flummoxed. How can our own communities support terrorism against a woman of color? They are threatening her income and job security over something that had nothing to do with her work, and even if it did, she has the right to her beliefs. Maybe we need to register Gender Critical as a religion and all join the Church of Gender Sanity (or something pithy) and then say we are being discriminated against based on our religion? Can we do that? I fear we are only months away from being sent off to the TERF internment camps for reprogramming.

I feel so unwelcome here at home, my 13yo brother does as he pleases and every time I try to say anything they say I am causing conflict in this house.

My brother will drink a whole bottle of soda alone and when I complain about it they say I don’t like peace.

My brother sits on the tv the whole day with no chance of me ever touching the remote and when I dare try say anything again I cause conflict

If he finds me on the tv with the remote he will cry for the remote and I’ll be told to give him the remote.

I can’t leave to my place yet because I have to take care of ill mother who doesn’t give a damn about me. I feel so unwelcome in this house

Edit : I must add that my father and brother do no house chores. It’s up to me and my mother to do them, my dad says boys don’t do dishes. My mother doesn’t even mind doing all the house chores despite them earning basically the same monthly income

With the election season, I get loads of texts telling me to vote for their candidate and when I respond with anything remotely feminist, I am ignored.

Today was a little different. A volunteer for a running AG in my state messaged me. He asked me what issues matter to me, and I decided this was a good time to engage about men in women's prisons- mainly about how they don't belong there. I asked if this man running for AG actually plans on defending Title IX and women's rights, including not allowing men to be housed in women's prisons.

He stated he didn't have an answer for that specific question, but that the AG is pro-choice. I expressed that platitudes aren't really good enough for women anymore, and we need action. We need men to stop ignoring Title IX because only sex is protected, not gender. I then linked him this article.

https://news.wttw.com/2020/02/19/lawsuit-female-prisoner-says-she-was-raped-transgender-inmate

I'll be honest, I fully expected this volunteer ignore me as well, but he actually responded by saying "Fair point!" and that he'd send it on for a more specific answer. Whether I get a specific answer or not remains to be seen (I doubt it) but I am done being quiet on this matter.