JK Rowling's tweets were not transphobic and I legitimately don't see how anyone could think they are

JK ROWLING Submitted June 28, 2020, 11:31 a.m. by spam_risk

Just wanna start this off by saying JK Rowling wasn't being hateful, and that I actually agree with what she was saying. It's truly unfair how she is being canceled and threatened for daring to express her gender-critical views.

Whether or not you agree with what she said is a different story, but I think it's wildly irrational to claim she was being transphobic.

She outright said she knows and loves trans people, and believes that they deserve respect and happy lives (something along those lines)

JKR tried to write thoughtfully and compassionately in an effort to speak her mind without offending someone. And people are bashing her for it.

The whole twitter controversy just goes to show that people can get too easily offended, and anything remotely scientifically true or fact-based is labeled as hate speech and transphobic.

Sorry if this digressed into a mini rant. What I'm trying to say is actually summed up in a line from one of JK Rowling's tweets: "It isn't hate to speak the truth."

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TheDocileHornet2 · June 28, 2020, 11:33 a.m. · 1 reply

JK is soooo bad and anyone who agrees is a TWERF :3 owo /s /s

Puke. I have people who spew that at work and it takes everything in me not to lose my job.

ForsakenProfession · June 28, 2020, 11:44 a.m.

I feel for you, truly. How propagandized do people have to be that the truth no longer matters?

aldouscircleHuffleterf · June 28, 2020, 11:38 a.m. · 2 replies

It's all groupthink -> purity spiral in action. Many (probably most) of those who have piled on her haven't even read her tweets let alone her essay.

spam_risk · June 28, 2020, 11:47 a.m. · 1 reply

Exactly, they're just believing and repeating everything libfems and TRAs tell them without looking into it themselves.

laurelina · June 28, 2020, 1:38 p.m. · 2 replies

I actually had to ask my friend 3 times! To READ what she wrote. I still don't think he has. They just read news articles blasting her and jump on the badwagon

salty_catt · June 28, 2020, 3:26 p.m.

Read it aloud to him. Put glue on the chair first.

EmGhostQueen · June 28, 2020, 6:10 p.m.

One of my closest friends said she would have blocked me if I was anyone else for asking people to just READ all of what she said

beggsy909 · June 28, 2020, 7:56 p.m.

It's a really good example of herd mentality.

judgemycomposure · June 28, 2020, 11:42 a.m. · 2 replies

She even added a screenshot of the essay that unambiguously stated pro-trans sentiment and yet it's still read as "transphobic, hateful bile".

I can't believe we're living through a time with mass delusion. I thought this was just for unenlightened societies in history :-)

breakoutredoubt · June 28, 2020, 12:05 p.m.

Delusion has sorta been central to maintaining hierarchical society for the last 12,000 years or so.

salty_catt · June 28, 2020, 3:27 p.m. · 1 reply

TRAs see it as saying "I'm not racist, I have tons of black friends!"

Content-Feedback · June 28, 2020, 7:11 p.m.

They do not even care about that. Their problem is the meat of the issue. Rowling is "denying their existence" by opposing certain men's ability to dress up and force others to play pretend with them.

Rowling's views cannot be acknowledged because it helps to tear down the walls of trans ideology. They have to be hidden from view under the label of hate speech.

ForsakenProfession · June 28, 2020, 11:43 a.m.

The biological truth will always be called "transphobic" by those promoting The Big Lie. It's the same as Trump lying constantly about the pandemic because that's what some people want to hear.

And Brawndo is what plants crave, doncha know.

Woman1234567 · June 28, 2020, 1:10 p.m. · 1 reply

I think a key part of this is that most people equate disagreeing with the current direction of trans activism as denying trans people’s right to exist. An effective tactic of trans activists. And bizarre in a way, as there is no other area of public/political discourse where this happens.

ClintEastwoods_Chair · June 28, 2020, 6:10 p.m. · 1 reply

I do see parallels in other parts of the US left, particularly when it comes to things like Medicare For All, where if you support any other way to get to Universal Healthcare you're called a "shill" and you have your motives questioned, often by people who don't even know the difference.

The trans debate is a lot of the small, disjointed issues with the modern left being driven to their extreme: lack of nuance, unchecked misogyny, groupthink, pile-ons, virtue-signaling, lack of empathy, anti-intellectualism, extremeism, etc. This is from a lifelong Democrat who wouldn't vote R in a million years.

EDIT: Also, shitting on the legacies of historical progressive figures, downplaying the importance of Women's Progress and Hillary/Nancy's role in it, etc

starsofthemultiverse · June 29, 2020, 5:18 a.m.

Brilliant reply, completely agree.

Henchperson · June 28, 2020, 1:12 p.m. · 1 reply

I just don't understand the reaction and the debate-culture is honestly what alienated me the most about trans-activism.

There are just so many little things you apparently can't disagree and debate in a respectful way. It's just that you either agree or you are a bigot, you don't even have to disagree with them on the principle.

For example, I think people should be able to transition, but I don't believe we should allow all young kids who show the slightest sign of dysphoria to make lifelong changes to their body. I think trans-women should be allowed in female sports competitions, IF it can be proven their bodies have no advantage over cis-women (even on a case-to-case basis).

But for merely suggesting that, you get cancelled, called names, etc and I know for a fact some radical feminists aren't better, but that doesn't mean people trying to have an honest discussion should be treated the same way as people actually threatening trans lives.

villanelle23eve · June 28, 2020, 4:04 p.m. · 2 replies

About sports, how would you be able to prove that? Even if you take a biological female, and measure her athletic ability compared to her peers, you'd find disparities. What if you have someone who trains 3 hours a day, but fits the criteria to compete alongside people who have to train 8 hours a day in order to achieve the same level of fitness? Also, it's just not fair to make sure that an individual trans women is bad enough at sports, that she's allowed to compete amongst women. You'd be rewarding the worst athletes, and punishing the best ones.

Henchperson · June 28, 2020, 4:29 p.m.

I hear you and I agree to an extent, but if I'm being honest, I don't understand enough about physiology and sports to determine that - To my understanding a MtF-athlete's running performance may become comparable to a female running performance after a certain amount of time, but it's obviously different for high contact sports or sports that are inherently based on strength and muscle mass, which is why I don't think mtf-boxers (for example) should be allowed to fight biological women. But I have no idea how much this is influenced by transition after or pre-puberty and what other factors might be influencing this. I'm just trying to be cautious with an opinion on a topic I'm not that well educated on.

I have honestly no fucking clue how to prove that, that's something that should be the job of a physicist or a sports scientist or whoever is in charge of the rules - Ideally the ones most affected by this, which is women who know and do sports. The only thing I've got going for me is seeing that picture of the beaming mtf-weightlifter with her medals and the pity I felt for the natal girls competing with her.

I just wish they could be more compassionate with their fellow athletes and remember that it's not just about their rights, wishes and feelings.

Content-Feedback · June 28, 2020, 7:23 p.m.

It is an impossibility. How do you prove no advantage? And why would you bother? Advantage is part of sport. Athletes train and change their diets and sometimes cheat to get an edge. Why should a man be banned from sport when he is a "woman" every where else? What about women who have natural advantages?

Performance differences are also of little importance. Men are stronger and faster than women on average so allowing men to compete will be favorable for men. It is a stupid idea, but mostly harmful. Injury risks is the important issue. I do care about the differences in injury rates and specific injuries that are either more common or more severe in women's sports. Female athletes report a greater number of concussions that are more severe and take longer to heal than male athletes. Women are more likely to suffer lower extremity injuries. Women have higher risk of stress fractures. And I could go on. I think it is unconscionable that anyone would support increasing risks of injury further out of some misguided desire to achieve "equality" for men who identify as women.

StellarSunDanceMy SeXX Wasn't Assigned · June 28, 2020, 1:57 p.m.

Narcissists see anything that isn't 100% with them as an attack against them.

Also, TRA's love using DARVO.

mpb1289 · June 28, 2020, 2:03 p.m. · 2 replies

I have a theory that 99% of TRA genuinely don’t believe that TWAW, but just say they do because they think it’s the right thing to say. There is not one word of JK Rowling’s tweets that are transphobic, neither is anything she has said on the matter, evidenced today by that beard MP forced to apologise. Stock insults and hyperbole is their only response because they know its BS

hugonaut13 · June 28, 2020, 5:22 p.m.

Go read the story of the emperor’s new clothes then compare to TWAW.

Content-Feedback · June 28, 2020, 7:33 p.m.

They believe it as long as it never affects their lives. It is really easy to say "trans women are women" when you are the not the one being berated for not wanting a "woman" with a penis for a sexual or romantic partner. It is easy to say that Johnny Yaniv is a true "woman" when you are not the one having to wax his genitals. It is easy to say that post-pubescent males should be able to compete against women in sport when you are not the one being beaten (like losing) and possibly injured by biological differences that are impossible to overcome through training. It is easy to overlook a "woman's" exposing "her erect penis" in the shower at the woman's gym when you are hundreds of miles away.

People will pay lip service to the most oppressed and persecuted of all women as long they do not have to sacrifice for it. Sacrifice is for other people. I will stick with loudly voicing my ideals!

AlissonHarlan · June 28, 2020, 2:29 p.m.

Don't read article, and don't try to understand --> jump straight to the conclusion

tentativeexploration · June 28, 2020, 5:56 p.m.

I suppose the only remotely ‘reasonable’ reason for people to get offended was that she implied that TiF’s were women because they can menstruate and anything that implies that trans-identifying people aren’t who they say they are.

But given that the responses were rape threats and TWAW, well... You’re probably right.

PassionateIntensity · June 28, 2020, 7:28 p.m.

IMO they don't actually believe this, they're telling lies for propaganda purposes -- the ones who've bothered to read anything she wrote. The rest are virtue signaling so they don't get bullied out of polite society by a raging mob.

Noootka_Rose · June 28, 2020, 7:38 p.m. · 1 reply

I agree she didn’t say anything trans phobic. Why can’t we say that we want trans people to have rights and protections while also making sure that women’s rights aren’t taken away? Women need protection and safe spaces. That’s just the reality.

spam_riskgender critical =/= transphobic · June 28, 2020, 7:53 p.m.

Exactly. Everyone should have rights, just not at the expense of someone else's rights and safety. Is this really so hard for them to understand?

kissmekatebush · June 28, 2020, 9:07 p.m. · 1 reply

I think because people have been told JKR is transphobic, they now see anything she says through that lens. PRetty much no one is engaging with the nuance of anything she says, and let's be real: that essay of hers was too long and intelligent for most people on twitter. I genuinely think 99% of people fuelling the backlash haven't read it.

spam_riskgender critical =/= transphobic · June 28, 2020, 9:11 p.m.

Yep, twitter doesn't seem to be the peak of human intelligence... anyone who actually read her essay and has an ounce of common sense could tell she doesn't have hateful intentions. But I guess an ounce of common sense is too much to ask for from the majority of twitter :/

onemoredaydream · June 29, 2020, 1:04 a.m.

"transphobic" just means "didn't grovel and scrape enough"

innesbinnes · June 29, 2020, 4:25 a.m.

ok but like go away and read the definition of transphobia the come back x

PinkFreudianLips · June 29, 2020, 10:13 a.m.

Most of the people I see commenting about this in a negative way didn’t bother to read them. They’re just jumping on the twitwit cancel wagon.

It’s mostly insults. Many seem to think Rowling is FOR women being called by their genitalia instead of being called women when she was criticizing that exact view.

TRA and LibFems don’t know why they’re mad, they just know they’ve been triggered by seeing other people be triggered so the conversation must be “problematic.”