Faith Salie on using the "K-word": Karen (Aired on CBS this morning)

Submitted June 28, 2020, 2:46 p.m. by LotusEagle

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st_quiteriae pur si muove · June 28, 2020, 4:20 p.m.

"Let's not fight racism with sexism." We need to keep repeating this over and over.

itsmeiwinulose · June 28, 2020, 5:22 p.m. · 3 replies

imo this sub needs to focus less on "Karen is a slur" - it's pretty embarrassing for women on here to rush to defend racist women who act like this and not focus on real issues that affect women as a class

BoopboophadoopDisillusioned U.S. Liberal · June 28, 2020, 10:29 p.m. · 2 replies

This line of thinking is why we women in America have so easily given up our fight for women's rights. We are always told we are less oppressed than everyone else, that it's somehow a zero sum game and we are last in line for fighting oppression. No. Women's oppression through casual misogyny in language IS a real issue. You can call out racism without resorting to misogynistic slurs. We don't have to give up our fight against sexism just because blacks are also being oppressed.

Noootka_Rose · June 29, 2020, 8:36 a.m.

Well said! Thank you. You said what I’ve been thinking about the Karen thing but couldn’t articulate.

itsmeiwinulose · June 29, 2020, 8:38 a.m.

I agree that casual misogyny in language is a real issue. I don't agree that calling a woman a "Karen" fits that label. The majority of the time I've seen it used it's been against white women who are acting terribly racist. Of course there might be men who use it in a misogynistic way - but they also do that for "females" and I don't see the same kind of discussion about that.

"we don't have to give up our fight against sexism just because blacks are also being oppressed" - so that kind of statement ignores the fact that black women are women too. Imo we should be fighting for all women. Showing support for women who are being blatantly racist and horrible on video will likely make minority women feel like they're not included, which should not be the case. I don't think going on and on about how "Karen is a slur" is the most productive or worthy thing to discuss and push forward.

sensusquaeramheterodoxico-normative · June 28, 2020, 11:21 p.m.

Please refer to Karlos Dillard and his targeting, harassing, and posting videos designed to humiliate multiple "Karens" in Seattle (minus any racist content) and capitalize on the encounters with merch, as well as his vid discussion with his husband about scamming store owners. This is where the "Karen" meme is going.

lefterfieldPolitically dysphoric · June 28, 2020, 11:40 p.m.

Read the article, as silly as it is. The comments on any "Karen" story are brutal, violent, and overtly celebratory of violence against women. A racist woman deserves to be called out, but not to be punched or raped. It's also not always about race, as non-white women have been "Karenized" too. This name-calling is about women as a class.