No one can be a "LGBTQI person" for godsake

Submitted June 28, 2020, 4:42 p.m. by Bluetinfoilhat

Why are people now referred to as LGBTQI when you can't be a gay man and lesbian at the same time? When did it become appropriate for reporters and journalist to refer to people like this. Like I have heard people refer to a lesbian woman as " a LGBTQI" woman. For brevity you could just say she is lesbian.

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NeverCrumbling · June 28, 2020, 4:52 p.m. · 1 reply

Some of these people who have convinced themselves that they have disassociation identity disorder have claimed to be all that and more, and are somehow taken seriously in certain parts of their community.

I do completely agree with you, though. It’s why I’ve also completely lost esteem for people who self-identify as “queer.”

beaproudsavage · June 28, 2020, 6:36 p.m. · 2 replies

Meh, to strangers I will usually just say I'm queer. No one is entitled to know the specific alphabet letter I'm a part of. To me, my sexuality is a private part of my identity.

Bluetinfoilhat · June 28, 2020, 7:42 p.m. · 1 reply

Are you under 35??

beaproudsavage · June 28, 2020, 8:39 p.m. · 1 reply

Does it matter?

Bluetinfoilhat · June 28, 2020, 9:17 p.m. · 1 reply


beaproudsavage · June 28, 2020, 9:21 p.m.

Is it cause of the history of the word queer? I'd use an alternative short word that has the same intended meaning rather than the alphabet where you can offend someone for missing out on a letter. If you got a good alternative, let me know.

bio-womanWomen have very little idea of how much men hate them · June 29, 2020, 12:44 a.m. · 1 reply

That's a slur though. To many of us who are older, it will never be reclaimed. To those of us who live in smaller or rural areas, especially outside of the US, it is still used as a slur against us.

beaproudsavage · June 29, 2020, 12:45 a.m. · 1 reply

That's fair. I mean though, dyke was/is a slur yet I see it being reclaimed.

AngryAtTheWholeWorld · June 29, 2020, 4:47 a.m.

Yeah don’t listen to them. If you are queer you’re allowed to call yourself queer. I think the new generation has reclaimed this because I didn’t even know it was previously a slur for a long time

Butchie68Lesbians don’t do dick · June 28, 2020, 4:53 p.m.

Because straight people with mental issues have stolen our verbiage.

--backdrifter · June 28, 2020, 5:14 p.m.

I've noticed this a lot too. It's irritating and nonsensical. You can't be all the letters (especially now that more letters are added all the time) at once. Many contradict each other. I find this especially frustrating when the person's actual sexual orientation is known, yet they're still referred to as an "LGBTQ+ person."

I think this happens for a few reasons. People are afraid of saying "gay" and especially "lesbian." I've heard stories of people explicitly saying "lesbian" and calling themselves "lesbian" but being written about as "queer" or "LGBTQ+" in the actual article. There's this ridiculous belief that gay/lesbian are exclusionary, old-fashioned, bigoted terms now. There's been this intense push toward inclusion. Now, I don't disagree that it's important to be inclusive, but sometimes there are issues that only affect certain groups, and it isn't "exclusionary" or "bigoted" for a lesbian to be called a lesbian (and not "LGBTQ+" or "queer"), for example. I also think that a lot of TQ+ people push for "LGBTQ+" to be used so they can feel like they're included in absolutely every issue and topic even when they actually aren't. A lot of "queer"-identified people are actually straight, and they're desperate to feel like they truly belong.

juliet_echo_alpha · June 28, 2020, 6:38 p.m.

I've never gotten over the npr piece I heard about Victoria's Secret's first trans model. They referred to it as "LGBTQ representation." Really? In what way does that represent gay men, lesbians, or bisexual people? Whom does it serve for all those categories of people to be lumped in together?

temporalcalamity · June 28, 2020, 6:45 p.m. · 1 reply

Have you ever talked to an American who was clearly told that "African-American" was the polite term for black people and so started applying it to everyone, including British people and people from Africa? It reminds me a little of that - average straight people just want to know what the non-offensive label du jour is, and if you give them one, they'll go around slapping it on everything. And then real Wokesters have a vested interest in lumping the terms together and putting everything under the queer umbrella, including large numbers of straight people. I'm not a fan of it myself.

Bluetinfoilhat · June 28, 2020, 7:42 p.m.

True. Just annoying all around.

S1mpslay3RMy Flair · June 28, 2020, 7 p.m.

Clears throat

PassionateIntensity · June 28, 2020, 8:18 p.m.

I think they want to erase the words gay and lesbian, in addition to woman. They've already got mainstream journalism calling everything "queer," even though surveys show the majority of gay people find it offensive.

OnyxAnonymous12 · June 28, 2020, 10 p.m. · 1 reply

What does the I stand for?

Bluetinfoilhat · June 28, 2020, 10:05 p.m.

I think intersex.

i_love_spaghetti_ohs · June 29, 2020, 4:48 a.m.

I keep hearing how intersexed people really don’t want to be in the soup.

hilary707 · June 29, 2020, 10:55 a.m.

This bothers me so much! Two things appear similar = same. How did we get here?!

I’m a lesbian AND terrified of where the trans activism movement is going. I’m uncomfortable being under the same umbrella as people who are doing this to be trendy or predatory. But if I were to say it, I’d be bullied and branded as a bigot in my own “community.” Sigh.