30 comments recovered from the Pushshift database.
GCMadamXX · July 9, 2020, 8:22 p.m.
Good for her. I hope she wins.
moon_prophet · July 9, 2020, 8:51 p.m. · 3 replies
Everyone needs to stop acting like men’s and women’s spaces were ever seperated due to gender indentity.
It has always been based on sex. And should continue to be so.
If trans people are uncomfortable, they need their own separate spaces.
Tweeders55 · July 9, 2020, 9:33 p.m.
They have them. The men's room.
DistantGlimmer · July 9, 2020, 9:36 p.m.
For a lot of them their fetish makes them want women's spaces not their own. They get off on making women bow to their will in terms of recognizing them as female or at least pretending to. I doubt the vast majority of the trans community is ever going to be reasonable about allowing women to have female spaces. We need laws it's so sad the legal system has been so totally corrupted by this toxic ideology here. I live in Ontario. I hope this woman wins her complaint but I'd be really surprised,
Sawyex · July 10, 2020, 1:57 a.m.
I love how they always insinuate that “people have always used whatever bathrooms they want”, like it was EVER a thing in the past.
Fuckingsealions · July 9, 2020, 8:52 p.m.
So sad that she had to deal with this. If you're desperate enough to enter a shelter you're traumatized and out of resources, and the last thing you want to see is Schrodinger's rapist in your room. That's the PERFECT time to take a break from all men, literally take shelter, and then regroup and rejoin the rest of the world. 💔
Phoenix__Rising2018 · July 10, 2020, 12:32 a.m.
That evil piece of shit that ran that center. There's nothing "trauma-informed" about making a female rape victim share a room alone with a strange man all night. and absolutely none of this is about balancing equal rights. Her right to not be raped again or put in fear of being raped again is far above any of his rights in this situation.
That part where the person at the human Rights commission or wherever wouldn't even speak to her because she referred to the man as a man. Told her she was the one violating his rights and then ended the call. Women are dismissed so easily by all these assholes. Men would never be lied to like this and then kicked to the curb like they're not even human. But oh no, this isn't misogyny at all!
TheSensibleCentrist · July 10, 2020, 2:26 a.m. · 1 reply
The link is almost two years old.
Is any update available?
fijupanda · July 10, 2020, 2:38 a.m.
not that I could find. sorry
KendallMintcakeGay Man · July 10, 2020, 3:29 a.m.
Traumatised woman told she must acquiesce to a man's feelings and that her own emotions don't count. Sounds about par for the course these days.
xprincesssarahx · July 10, 2020, 3:39 a.m. · 3 replies
Even when the transgender women has done nothing wrong it's still her fault? Reading this article it seems all she done wrong was wearing boots? Finding Latina woman attractive. These are traits that some women have too.
The article even says that in a phone call she kept misgendering the trans women on purpose which is no different from calling a gay person a faggot while all the trans women was doing is using the shelter as a shelter. She did not hurt anyone she did not say anything wrong yet just for daring to exist she is in the wrong.
I know that's funny to most of you and while you may not admit it trans people excistance bothers you.
This is where your whole argument falls apart and why all this anti trans stuff will go nowhere because even when a trans person does nothing wrong and follows the rules and is met with abuse she is in the wrong.
Both women were vunerble and neither has a right to want the other out.
I look forward to your bigoted take on this and I look forward to hearing how the trans women is so evil for not doing anything wrong
ExpiredKebabFemale · July 10, 2020, 4:17 a.m. · 1 reply
Why tf are you on this sub, asshole?
xprincesssarahx · July 10, 2020, 4:21 a.m. · 1 reply
Why do you feel the need to insult me by calling me names? I'm on here the same reason I'm on reddit right now I'm bored and waiting for my friend to get here I saw the article on this sub and posted my opinion about it.
Do you have anything constructive to say or did you just want to insult me?
ExpiredKebabFemale · July 10, 2020, 4:24 a.m. · 1 reply
Because you're being utterly stupid. Yes, the fact a man is EXISTING in a woman's shelter is fucked up! How do you not realise that? It's absolutely disgusting how he has access to all of these vulnerable women.
xprincesssarahx · July 10, 2020, 4:34 a.m. · 2 replies
She did not do anything wrong you can't punish her for something she has not done.
As long as you want to keep saying that every trans person is a threat and that they are men (ignoring the existence of trans men) then your going to be wondering what's going on with the world.
I accept that some trans people are sick but by implying they are all like that is stopping any actual discussion about it. You guys shoot yourself in the foot by allowing so many hateful and horrible people join your cause so many people who you consider allies don't care about women's rights they just hate transgender people.
It's the same thing as with trans people, you have some disgusting people backing up your argument the same with trans people
zerokarmakaren · July 10, 2020, 5:03 a.m. · 1 reply
The complaint was against the shelter, not the other individual.
Jumpersplant · July 10, 2020, 10:24 a.m. · 1 reply
Not every man is a threat, some men would never ever assault a woman, doesn't mean women should be forced to share a bedroom with them. Even if the guy was Dalai Lama, gay or something like that, I don't want him in my bedroom!
This was a trans woman who behaved and spoke about women in a typically masculine way that was particularly triggering to the traumatised woman. If shelters actually cared about women, they wouldn't put someone who looks this masculine in a shared sleeping space with a recovering rape victim. EVEN if she used masculine pronouns for the trans woman. Please. I keep seeing our pronouns used as a weapon against already marginalised people. They can eventually be turned against us, which people who advocate for us should start acknowledging, because the situation is already dire. Look at what we've come to. This is obscene. Even a raped and traumatised woman is expected to put aside her own comfort and sense of safety in one of the most vulnerable situations possible, in her sleep, because she didn't use the right keyword to justify her care. Our pronouns cannot be this important. Besides, they would never do this to a man. Women who defend this will find themselves treated this way too, sooner or later, because the hoops a woman is expected to jump through are endless and no one has the strength for all of them.
I mean, even if the shelter didn't agree with this woman, the very least they could do is recognise that trauma can be triggered by anything, like a yellow shirt and a hair clip... or a beard, chest hair and combat boots. Instead she was punished for not swallowing her trauma.
xprincesssarahx · July 10, 2020, 9:26 a.m.
I agree with you to a certain extent but why could she not move to the other room she was offered? The trans women could have been raped.
I have met a few women who talk like that about women.
I completely agree with what your saying that she should not have to be around the trans women if she does not feel safe but she was offered another room and refused it and then kept purposely using the wrong pronouns.
The trans women safety should not be compromised because the other woman refused to take another room.
The trans women did nothing wrong other then seeking shelter and after the women refused to share a room with her the trans women still did not do anything if she would have raised her voice you know it would be in the report.
I feel so sorry that she is scared around men it's horrible to feel that way I know that but this trans women done nothing except seeking shelter
Jumpersplant · July 10, 2020, 10:22 a.m. · 1 reply
So wait, women are supposed to share a room with men if the men do nothing wrong?
xprincesssarahx · July 10, 2020, 10:40 a.m. · 1 reply
She was offered another room
P1antsarefriends · July 10, 2020, 12:52 p.m.
...without a door. A room that anyone could enter at any point in the night while she was sleeping. This is a woman who is recovering from immense trauma. That is not an acceptable, and especially not a trauma-informed, solution. That is not what equitable care looks like.
feed-me-pb · July 10, 2020, 4:40 a.m.
the fact that the human rights center hung up on her because she was using male pronouns and therefore "also committing a human rights violation" really just says everything doesn't it.
men have a human right to enforce how other people talk about them.
Good for her. I hope she wins.
Everyone needs to stop acting like men’s and women’s spaces were ever seperated due to gender indentity.
It has always been based on sex. And should continue to be so.
If trans people are uncomfortable, they need their own separate spaces.
They have them. The men's room.
For a lot of them their fetish makes them want women's spaces not their own. They get off on making women bow to their will in terms of recognizing them as female or at least pretending to. I doubt the vast majority of the trans community is ever going to be reasonable about allowing women to have female spaces. We need laws it's so sad the legal system has been so totally corrupted by this toxic ideology here. I live in Ontario. I hope this woman wins her complaint but I'd be really surprised,
I love how they always insinuate that “people have always used whatever bathrooms they want”, like it was EVER a thing in the past.
So sad that she had to deal with this. If you're desperate enough to enter a shelter you're traumatized and out of resources, and the last thing you want to see is Schrodinger's rapist in your room. That's the PERFECT time to take a break from all men, literally take shelter, and then regroup and rejoin the rest of the world. 💔
That evil piece of shit that ran that center. There's nothing "trauma-informed" about making a female rape victim share a room alone with a strange man all night. and absolutely none of this is about balancing equal rights. Her right to not be raped again or put in fear of being raped again is far above any of his rights in this situation.
That part where the person at the human Rights commission or wherever wouldn't even speak to her because she referred to the man as a man. Told her she was the one violating his rights and then ended the call. Women are dismissed so easily by all these assholes. Men would never be lied to like this and then kicked to the curb like they're not even human. But oh no, this isn't misogyny at all!
The link is almost two years old.
Is any update available?
not that I could find. sorry
Traumatised woman told she must acquiesce to a man's feelings and that her own emotions don't count. Sounds about par for the course these days.
Even when the transgender women has done nothing wrong it's still her fault? Reading this article it seems all she done wrong was wearing boots? Finding Latina woman attractive. These are traits that some women have too.
The article even says that in a phone call she kept misgendering the trans women on purpose which is no different from calling a gay person a faggot while all the trans women was doing is using the shelter as a shelter. She did not hurt anyone she did not say anything wrong yet just for daring to exist she is in the wrong.
I know that's funny to most of you and while you may not admit it trans people excistance bothers you.
This is where your whole argument falls apart and why all this anti trans stuff will go nowhere because even when a trans person does nothing wrong and follows the rules and is met with abuse she is in the wrong.
Both women were vunerble and neither has a right to want the other out.
I look forward to your bigoted take on this and I look forward to hearing how the trans women is so evil for not doing anything wrong
Why tf are you on this sub, asshole?
Why do you feel the need to insult me by calling me names? I'm on here the same reason I'm on reddit right now I'm bored and waiting for my friend to get here I saw the article on this sub and posted my opinion about it.
Do you have anything constructive to say or did you just want to insult me?
Because you're being utterly stupid. Yes, the fact a man is EXISTING in a woman's shelter is fucked up! How do you not realise that? It's absolutely disgusting how he has access to all of these vulnerable women.
She did not do anything wrong you can't punish her for something she has not done.
As long as you want to keep saying that every trans person is a threat and that they are men (ignoring the existence of trans men) then your going to be wondering what's going on with the world.
I accept that some trans people are sick but by implying they are all like that is stopping any actual discussion about it. You guys shoot yourself in the foot by allowing so many hateful and horrible people join your cause so many people who you consider allies don't care about women's rights they just hate transgender people.
It's the same thing as with trans people, you have some disgusting people backing up your argument the same with trans people
The complaint was against the shelter, not the other individual.
Not every man is a threat, some men would never ever assault a woman, doesn't mean women should be forced to share a bedroom with them. Even if the guy was Dalai Lama, gay or something like that, I don't want him in my bedroom!
This was a trans woman who behaved and spoke about women in a typically masculine way that was particularly triggering to the traumatised woman. If shelters actually cared about women, they wouldn't put someone who looks this masculine in a shared sleeping space with a recovering rape victim. EVEN if she used masculine pronouns for the trans woman. Please. I keep seeing our pronouns used as a weapon against already marginalised people. They can eventually be turned against us, which people who advocate for us should start acknowledging, because the situation is already dire. Look at what we've come to. This is obscene. Even a raped and traumatised woman is expected to put aside her own comfort and sense of safety in one of the most vulnerable situations possible, in her sleep, because she didn't use the right keyword to justify her care. Our pronouns cannot be this important. Besides, they would never do this to a man. Women who defend this will find themselves treated this way too, sooner or later, because the hoops a woman is expected to jump through are endless and no one has the strength for all of them.
I mean, even if the shelter didn't agree with this woman, the very least they could do is recognise that trauma can be triggered by anything, like a yellow shirt and a hair clip... or a beard, chest hair and combat boots. Instead she was punished for not swallowing her trauma.
I agree with you to a certain extent but why could she not move to the other room she was offered? The trans women could have been raped.
I have met a few women who talk like that about women.
I completely agree with what your saying that she should not have to be around the trans women if she does not feel safe but she was offered another room and refused it and then kept purposely using the wrong pronouns.
The trans women safety should not be compromised because the other woman refused to take another room.
The trans women did nothing wrong other then seeking shelter and after the women refused to share a room with her the trans women still did not do anything if she would have raised her voice you know it would be in the report.
I feel so sorry that she is scared around men it's horrible to feel that way I know that but this trans women done nothing except seeking shelter
So wait, women are supposed to share a room with men if the men do nothing wrong?
She was offered another room
...without a door. A room that anyone could enter at any point in the night while she was sleeping. This is a woman who is recovering from immense trauma. That is not an acceptable, and especially not a trauma-informed, solution. That is not what equitable care looks like.
the fact that the human rights center hung up on her because she was using male pronouns and therefore "also committing a human rights violation" really just says everything doesn't it.
men have a human right to enforce how other people talk about them.
women don't have a human right to privacy.