And there it is

Submitted June 19, 2020, 4:33 p.m. by jetpatch
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snailjuiice · June 19, 2020, 5:07 p.m. · 1 reply

Sounds like contrapoints.

ImtheonlyBnyerbonnet · June 19, 2020, 10:09 p.m.

Interesting. I usually think of MtF anger as plain misogyny and 'sour grapes' because they know they aren't women. I didn't consider the shame from being seen as everything women dislike.

In case it's relevant to anyone, for FtM the issue is trauma and homophobia.

This is just my speculation and conjecture, no citation.

emilialillienne · June 19, 2020, 5:30 p.m. · 4 replies

I wonder what it was about being trans that amplified his misogyny. Other MRAs in the echo chamber? More awareness of the fear men to pose to women, due to being more aware of being recognized to be a man?

EgregiousWeasel · June 19, 2020, 5:42 p.m.

Envy.

jetpatch · June 19, 2020, 5:59 p.m.

I wonder if he saw disgust and as he was already disgusted with himself it triggered him. With MRAs they more often see disregard or snobbery in women.

As he says, they see these things when they aren't there. They start believing a certain world view and that makes it appear.

theNomad2018 · June 19, 2020, 6:06 p.m.

Probably the constant visual confrontation of the idea that no matter what he believed, thought, or did, he could never actually become a woman or ever not be a man. It can't be easy to have your core beliefs shaken every day. Which was probably more subconscious than not. Especially with the unhealthy echo chamber pushing this narrative that "evil women" won't submit to. TRAs do a lot of collateral damage for both people with dysphoria and women.

YesPleaseMadam · June 19, 2020, 6:24 p.m.

Probably the fact that he could never actually be one. Seems to be a common denominator when they are being honest (rarely).

SkreebonkTheBeehonk · June 19, 2020, 6:32 p.m. · 1 reply

So you hated women.

Aintneverdonenothin · June 19, 2020, 7:26 p.m.

And still do

nagadife · June 19, 2020, 6:53 p.m. · 5 replies

I always wondered why they are so fixated with TERFS when 99.99% of trans women murders are done by men.

glitterjulia2 · June 19, 2020, 7:43 p.m. · 1 reply

Being rejected by a woman is the worst thing because not only do we recognize their poor imitations of us, but we can see through their misogyny and of course the idea of a woman saying no to a man is blasphemous.

xx_power · June 20, 2020, 3:20 a.m. · 1 reply

It also threatens their whole world view. If these women say men are not really women, maybe the other women who support them think the same deep down. It's scary that the transformation from loyal libfem to evil GC TERF is basically just one article or even one reddit comment away. That's how I went from year long TRA to GC in the course of weeks. All these thoughts I had when I was libfem that I burried deep down because they are problematic. There's so many more of us and they know it

glitterjulia2 · June 20, 2020, 2:23 p.m.

Turns out saying you're a woman doesn't actually automatically make it so. Who coulda thought

samanthahazard · June 19, 2020, 9:11 p.m. · 3 replies

Is it not 100%? Has a woman ever murdered a trans person?

ImtheonlyBnyerbonnet · June 19, 2020, 10:01 p.m. · 1 reply

I really want to know the answer to this

FilthyThanksgiving · June 20, 2020, 9:51 a.m.

Ditto, I'll bet it's literally never happened before

moonflower · June 20, 2020, 4:34 a.m. · 1 reply

I think there are a tiny number of cases, but I've never heard of a radical feminist killing a trans woman

Eowyn19 · June 20, 2020, 6:18 p.m.

I’m pretty sure, if a radical feminist had ever murdered a trans person, they would never shut up about it. And if any woman had murdered a trans person, they’d label her a radical feminist and... never shut up about it. In other words, we’d know. 😏

somegenerichandle · June 20, 2020, 10:18 a.m.

That's an excellent question. If you want to know for sure, you could go through the list of 26 murdered transpeople on the HRC website. However, you should look for their names in other sources, as none of the ones i looked at on the HRC links actually /r/nametheproblem

griffxx · June 19, 2020, 11:11 p.m. · 1 reply

We break down their illusion and Narcissism. They claim blood is on our hands. Try to Trump up the suicide rates as a manipulation. But the outside world was watching, including employers. This tactic backfired. Then they had to come up with more realistic numbers.

I miss Magledene Berns. She would deconstruct there arguments and tactics in the most brutal fashion. She was not taking any prisoners. She wasn't having it.

That's why they hated her so. While they desire to transition and become what a Queer Cultural critic named Jack Haberstam calls "female embodiment" they still retain their Male thinking pattern. They still see nothing wrong talking over women. They have this unfounded perception that they are the most oppressed demographic in the known Universe. That everyone, especially women should center their plight in of oppression, expect feminist should center their feminism. And if they were considered Straight men in their man life, they see know reason why Same-Sex attracted female homosexuals should have an issue with dating them. The dissonance of this proposition. They fundamentally changed the definition of Lesbian as Woman who Love Women, and order to lay claim to call themselves Lesbians.

This is one of many Gender Validation Vectors that includes being able to compete in Women and girls sports programs.

WEDN3SD4Y · June 20, 2020, 1:37 a.m. · 1 reply

We break down their illusion and narcissism

Exactly this. They can try to manipulate us, but they know we will always see through their weak facade. They know that even women who are more willing to let them play pretend still see them as something other than women.

RIP Magdalen, you were there for us when we needed a voice to call out this bullshit. 🖤🖤

griffxx · June 20, 2020, 3:13 a.m.

MB: "Blackface players"

i_love_spaghetti_ohs · June 20, 2020, 12:09 a.m.

I think there was just another one yesterday, a male killed a TIM. It’s always this way.

zaze12 · June 20, 2020, 5:39 a.m.

If blacks people murder more than other people because systemic racism,men kill for ystemic sexism.

Aintneverdonenothin · June 19, 2020, 7:30 p.m. · 2 replies

So....you felt that because you're trans you should be entitled to all women's explicit, enthusiastic acceptance, friendship, and love, at all times, and they shouldn't even be allowed to look at you wrong, lest they feel your rage??

Yup. Definitely sounds like girl brain.

i_am_so_over_it · June 19, 2020, 8:52 p.m.

Clearly he wasn't a true trans 🙄

zaze12 · June 20, 2020, 5:38 a.m.

Definitely sounds like girl brain

Sadly true,like the fat acceptance and we are all beutiful (only for women) movements.

stonemermaid · June 19, 2020, 11:22 p.m.

Sounds like every TIM I've ever known 🙄

ComradeHedgehog · June 20, 2020, 4:42 a.m.

Wow.

FilthyThanksgiving · June 20, 2020, 9:49 a.m. · 1 reply

Holy shit, a self aware tim.

lmaonope333 · June 20, 2020, 8:44 p.m.

He's not a tim anymore, he detransitioned

somegenerichandle · June 20, 2020, 9:58 a.m.

Stunning and brave.... (i actually am not being sacastic this time)

heidischallenge · June 20, 2020, 11:18 a.m.

Also sounds like he didn’t want to be associated with negative male stereotypes. There’s some self hatred in choosing to be transgender. Obviously, they can’t accept themselves as they are. This is why they need counseling. Goes for FTMs too. I wonder if they would get better help if becoming transgender wasn’t an option, like decades ago.

ivyandroses · June 20, 2020, 2:08 p.m.

i am saving this forever.