My expectations for you were low but HOLY FUCK
Discussion Submitted July 10, 2020, 11:27 a.m. by Facade76Upon hearing about this sub i’d already guessed it was some straight up bullshit. Turns out not only was i right, its worse. So much worse. So let me say something for yall
SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS NOT A CHOICE
ROMANTIC ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE
GENDER IDENTITY IS NOT A CHOICE!
Like it or not the T is in the community because we’re pretty much cast out from everything else. Or just hated to the point we leave. If i could choose not to live like this, i would take that opportunity in the blink of an eye because it is some of the most painful experience ive had in my life. But again i cant choose that, my identity is not something i choose, its developed. This sub honestly just proves how unnecessarily hard it is for us to just exist
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There is no such thing as "gender identity." There is no such thing as a "male" or "female" essence. You have an identity disorder. Which is awful, I'm sorry. I'm sure it's horrific. But it's selfish of you to think that we have to be a part of that.
I am very aware of the science behind gender dysphoria. If you would like to jump to my pm's, I will gladly debate you.
Timezones my guy
Gender Dysphoria is a disorder. It is not normal or healthy. Im truly sorry for the individuals that do have it, especially those that are mislead by the internet that it's just a philosophy on Life.
It isnt a philosophy, it isnt a disorder. Cite your sources if you want to prove me wrong
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Gender identity is definitely a choice except for those who have gender dysphoria. So pipe down about it.
Gender dysphoria is something that determines many trans people’s gender identity and again isnt a choice
Coooooool ive been muted because some people couldnt handle me existing
Oh no... but now we have non-dysphoric people come out as trans or non-binary which definitely says that it is a choice. Rather than coming for us, why don't you go for them? It will help get a better dialogue.
When has this subreddit ever argued that sexual orientation is a choice? I'm honestly curious, considering this sub is full of Lesbians, Gays (such as myself), and Bisexuals who would vehemently argue against that notion.
I figured i’d start off with some things yall would actually agree on
Sexual attraction and romantic attraction are not choices, you are correct! So why do so many trans activists insist that lesbians should 'suck on girl dick', that lesbians are transphobic for loving and being attracted to female people?
Ok, so stop saying our sexuality is transphobic
When did i once say that?
I never said you said that, however other members of the T have been known to say so. It's almost like it's one of the major reasons this sub exists
So this is a “few bad apples spoil the bunch” situation?
No, it's a matter of " the LGBT and especially the T communities are a toxic cesspool but if you dare have criticism, you're a bigot"
What this sub is is definitely not criticism, its blatantly pushing a group of people out of a community that has accepted them for ages
Well you might take a look at the pile of screenshots of such instances on subs like r/LGBdroptheT
Sexual orientation and romantic attractions are not a choice and we have always said that. Tell this fact to Riley Dennis and other people who refer to sexual orientation as genital preferences and require people to analyze their "genital preferences" lest they get labelled a transphobic bigot.
Gender identity is not a choice when you have dysphoria. I have sympathy and understanding for people who suffer from dysphoria. Without it... ? Remember, you do not need dysphoria to be trans.
Yes. But even then gender identity isnt a choice. Its what you feel most comfortable living as