Tiid-DovahLi Ruzhen is disappointed · June 28, 2020, 9:49 a.m. · 1 reply
This one (unintentionally) symbolises how TRAs are crushing the LGB.
happy-Bumbleb33 · June 28, 2020, 9:51 a.m. · 1 reply
While using POC issues as a sheild
happy-Bumbleb33 · June 28, 2020, 7:41 p.m.
My first gold? THANK YOU
FireLadyYay · June 27, 2020, 9:08 p.m.
Remember those clothes in the movie Idiocracy with all the brands? This is that in flag form.
Hyunnahh · June 27, 2020, 9:27 p.m.
Pride is no longer about LGB(t) huh?
worksite_garfield · June 27, 2020, 9:41 p.m. · 7 replies
Why is it suddenly about race too?
Racial issues are important but it’s separate from LGB issues.
its331am · June 28, 2020, 1:11 a.m.
Because if it was just the trans colors, they’d have to admit to making everything about them. If they add race in there they get to claim it’s about black trans. See how completely different, inclusive, and totally not selfish or redundant that is?
BandanaKey · June 28, 2020, 1:35 a.m.
It's been turning into a party unity movement. It will inevitably include every voter block that reliably votes democrat.
xx_power · June 28, 2020, 4:10 a.m. · 1 reply
Technically trans is already covered by the rainbow but they want to be the most dominant, just look at /r/lgbt
If they put black ppl in there, their overreach and dominance isn't so obvious.
Also this is very USA based, I assume? Doesn't the USA also have a shit ton of Asians? And what about native Americans? If you include one race, why not include the other ones that are also oppressed?
aestheticsnafu · June 28, 2020, 9:40 a.m. · 1 reply
Weirdly people really downplay racism towards Asian folks in the US, see the phrase BIPOC (black, indigenous, and people of color), which I’ve recently learned black and native Americans also don’t even like, so wtf woke white people. My guess is that the brown color is supposed to represent all non-black people of color though.
xx_power · June 28, 2020, 9:49 a.m. · 1 reply
Aren't (some) Asians seen as the "model minority" because they often have better outcomes than white people? I guess that makes racism towards them okay? 🙄 I can't speak for Koreans or Japanese but I think it would be a bit ridiculous to say, yo you're whiter than Walter McWhiteboi but the brown represents you lol
aestheticsnafu · June 28, 2020, 10:38 a.m. · 1 reply
Yeah I can’t say it seems very sensical to me but that’s how the narrative seems to work in the US at least in my experience. A lot of people using the term “black and brown (people, folks, whatever) as a way to discuss racial minorities, with a sort of ? when it comes to at least some East Asian populations — I’ve definitely heard it used to cover Native peoples, South Asians, and people from the Middle East. There definitely seems to be a hierarchy in how we discuss people who face some sort of oppression and East Asians seem to be treated as it being “not that bad” in what feels like a really awkward way.
xx_power · June 28, 2020, 10:45 a.m. · 1 reply
It can definitely be very confusing for us non Americans. Like, how Obama is called black, but he's exactly half white half black so you could call him white with the same justification? Then I learnt about the one drop rule but that was from the slave era so why still use it? I guess I sound horribly ignorant :/ I also don't get calling people who's skin color is white "non whites" just because they're Asian or Jewish...
You clearly don't know how identity politics function. It's basically a game of collecting as many minority points as possible you're to go to the top of the oppressed chain. It includes everything race, sexual orientation, gender, and even religion.
LouBagger · June 28, 2020, 7:21 a.m.
Intersectionality
Look it up... it's the new religion
jetpatch · June 28, 2020, 9:25 a.m.
Because obviously only white people can be a whole rainbow of diverse colours, everyone else has to be defined by their skin colour.
KajaIsForeverAloneYour text here · June 28, 2020, 9:37 a.m.
I think that since LGB also has a long history of discrimination along with racial groups, they've just kind of adopted them into the movement. Ever since it became LGBT people have been adding more onto it and its basically become a movement for many groups that experience oppression.
I'm not saying that it's good that way or bad that way. But I think that that's the reason why theres a new group of people in the whole acronym every few months.
LeaveAMsgAfterBeep · June 27, 2020, 9:49 p.m.
It’s because of the contrast difference. The pastel trans flag colors being on the dark background for people of color makes it pop more.
geoffersonstarship · June 27, 2020, 9:58 p.m.
as a brown bisexual this makes me cringe so hard
Lilith_Dark_Mercy · June 27, 2020, 9:59 p.m. · 1 reply
Well, at least the black power dist is punching the encroaching trans...
happy-Bumbleb33 · June 28, 2020, 12:32 a.m.
Fisting*
Cherry-Garcia- · June 27, 2020, 10:05 p.m.
It’s now the flag of intersectionality.
rpokefullofdopes✨ a magical girl✨ · June 27, 2020, 10:11 p.m.
That’s a ugly flag
Gayosexual · June 27, 2020, 10:36 p.m. · 3 replies
Blue fist! Smurf Pride!
FireLadyYay · June 27, 2020, 11:53 p.m.
We gotta draw the line somewhere. To hell with purple people... unless they are suffocating. Then. Help them. - Mitch Hedberg
Reminded me of this gem.
stuckathomeagain · June 28, 2020, 6:15 a.m. · 2 replies
What does the blue fist represent?!
I need to educate myself.
Gayosexual · June 28, 2020, 9:10 a.m.
No idea. Some one in drop the t reddit though maybe the red white and blue fist was the flag colors, but the other fists are like skin tones (races) so i'm not sure.
Its just an odd smash up of Gay Trans and Blm.
CameCome · June 28, 2020, 10:33 a.m.
Blue lives matter
i_love_spaghetti_ohs · June 28, 2020, 7:25 a.m.
Hey now. Smurf-o-sexual is a thing. Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.
😂
IndigoImperatrixFemale Supremacist · June 27, 2020, 11:33 p.m.
This is like 6 different things at once. Hideous and diluted.
Sonalgas · June 28, 2020, 12:13 a.m.
Being black or brown automatically makes one queer? Doesn't that just re-enforce the white default?
frustratedmarxistfem · June 28, 2020, 12:18 a.m. · 1 reply
We should abolish colleges.
PoodleDogHair · June 28, 2020, 1:21 a.m.
I was just reading about Guinevere’s evolution through the Arthurian story timelines from the Middle Ages and love that people study history and literature and keep this knowledge alive and available.
And then the same old cynic in me crept up and thought it’s all going to hell and these things will all be burned and bleached and rewritten to appease the thought police.
happy-Bumbleb33 · June 28, 2020, 12:25 a.m.
Because black and brown are the only marginalised lgbt+ peeps ... Cries in Asian
ndkaldjen · June 28, 2020, 12:54 a.m. · 2 replies
That flag has way too much going on 😂😂 regardless of how you feel about any of those groups/ideologies/whatever, you gotta admit that flag is ugly af just from a graphic design perspective
xx_power · June 28, 2020, 4:12 a.m.
It looks like the colorful lockscreen that came on after TV ended in the old times when it wasn't running 24/7
csemege · June 28, 2020, 4:42 a.m.
It looks like somebody wiped their ass with the original pride flag and then dropped ice cream on it.
urination_sensation · June 28, 2020, 1:06 a.m. · 1 reply
reminds me of the UN Women logo on twitter now
PoodleDogHair · June 28, 2020, 1:23 a.m. · 1 reply
OMG—is it smiling?!
looneytoon8 · June 28, 2020, 8:12 a.m.
Lmao
Yesnomaybluurgh · June 28, 2020, 4:56 a.m.
Gotta love how they claim to embrace every cause on a single flag and yet feminism is left out. So representative of the current american left.
WritesEssays4Fun · June 28, 2020, 6:54 a.m.
I keep seeing sets of flags being raised that include one BLM one and one trans one. How do people not see how selfish and disgusting that is? "BLACK TRANS LIVES MATTER!" Shut the fuck up narcissists, that's already included under BLM. The sad/scary part is that non-trans people are often shouted this out; they've got the hoi polloi under their stick-on-nail-embellished thumb.
jetpatch · June 28, 2020, 9:27 a.m.
There's a theory that it was designed to mirror the Palestinian flag by antisemites. This wouldn't surprise me in the least.
doblele01 · June 28, 2020, 12:32 p.m.
It's because of the visual composition (composition and graphics have their own laguage, you can see it used everyday in ads and art) and the use of the symbols and colours.
To explain it I will start with the basic rainmbow. The horizontal lines of the rainbow are visually read as equal, (even if they are vertical, like that example) are interpreted as the same. Even if some colours are at the top, because the colours themselves create a gradient, they complement each other. It's something that you eyes can read going up and down, but as a whole.
But the added part is a triangle, with a clear direction. On visual arts and graphic design, the elements that are triangular indicates movement, an object that gains territory. The triangle points the rainbow, and goes there. Also, you can give another interpretation, that its entering, inside the rainbow. Another thing: it's a really different shape, is in contrast with the rectangular lines of the rainbow, rather is a triangle. Also is usualy at the top, and that can be real as a hierarchy.
Other people mentioned the colours, certainly they are also importat, but I think that the simbolis is more related with the shape and how it's been placed. But I think it's interesting to see the black line sorrounding the triangle, because it's a bold contrast between the rainbow and the pastel colours.
Another idea that comes to my mind, is that they are doing a reference to flags of decolonized countries, like the Cuban or Puerto Rican flags, that have a triangle with an star to mean independence.
In my opinion, the trans flag has been placed in an obvious way that distinguishes it self of the rainbow. Rather than follow the first design, being placed as one more gradient. Finally, the election of the brown colours uses in reference of race have the same interested use as ideologically, they are used as an element to highlight more the trans flag.
GCnewb · June 28, 2020, 4:40 p.m.
It makes me laugh because it really does match that stereotype of them barging into others' spaces but I hate that they've co-opted race issues.
SirLampDevoidOfBulb · June 28, 2020, 6:42 p.m.
Why do they have to change the pride flag? Why cant they just be a part of it?
That’s ugly.
This version tweeted out by Sadiq Khan is even worse.
https://imgur.com/a/OMAxTlS
The rainbow getting it from both ends.
This one (unintentionally) symbolises how TRAs are crushing the LGB.
While using POC issues as a sheild
My first gold? THANK YOU
Remember those clothes in the movie Idiocracy with all the brands? This is that in flag form.
Pride is no longer about LGB(t) huh?
Why is it suddenly about race too?
Racial issues are important but it’s separate from LGB issues.
Because if it was just the trans colors, they’d have to admit to making everything about them. If they add race in there they get to claim it’s about black trans. See how completely different, inclusive, and totally not selfish or redundant that is?
It's been turning into a party unity movement. It will inevitably include every voter block that reliably votes democrat.
Technically trans is already covered by the rainbow but they want to be the most dominant, just look at /r/lgbt
If they put black ppl in there, their overreach and dominance isn't so obvious.
Also this is very USA based, I assume? Doesn't the USA also have a shit ton of Asians? And what about native Americans? If you include one race, why not include the other ones that are also oppressed?
Weirdly people really downplay racism towards Asian folks in the US, see the phrase BIPOC (black, indigenous, and people of color), which I’ve recently learned black and native Americans also don’t even like, so wtf woke white people. My guess is that the brown color is supposed to represent all non-black people of color though.
Aren't (some) Asians seen as the "model minority" because they often have better outcomes than white people? I guess that makes racism towards them okay? 🙄 I can't speak for Koreans or Japanese but I think it would be a bit ridiculous to say, yo you're whiter than Walter McWhiteboi but the brown represents you lol
Yeah I can’t say it seems very sensical to me but that’s how the narrative seems to work in the US at least in my experience. A lot of people using the term “black and brown (people, folks, whatever) as a way to discuss racial minorities, with a sort of ? when it comes to at least some East Asian populations — I’ve definitely heard it used to cover Native peoples, South Asians, and people from the Middle East. There definitely seems to be a hierarchy in how we discuss people who face some sort of oppression and East Asians seem to be treated as it being “not that bad” in what feels like a really awkward way.
It can definitely be very confusing for us non Americans. Like, how Obama is called black, but he's exactly half white half black so you could call him white with the same justification? Then I learnt about the one drop rule but that was from the slave era so why still use it? I guess I sound horribly ignorant :/ I also don't get calling people who's skin color is white "non whites" just because they're Asian or Jewish...
You clearly don't know how identity politics function. It's basically a game of collecting as many minority points as possible you're to go to the top of the oppressed chain. It includes everything race, sexual orientation, gender, and even religion.
Intersectionality
Look it up... it's the new religion
Because obviously only white people can be a whole rainbow of diverse colours, everyone else has to be defined by their skin colour.
I think that since LGB also has a long history of discrimination along with racial groups, they've just kind of adopted them into the movement. Ever since it became LGBT people have been adding more onto it and its basically become a movement for many groups that experience oppression.
I'm not saying that it's good that way or bad that way. But I think that that's the reason why theres a new group of people in the whole acronym every few months.
It’s because of the contrast difference. The pastel trans flag colors being on the dark background for people of color makes it pop more.
as a brown bisexual this makes me cringe so hard
Well, at least the black power dist is punching the encroaching trans...
Fisting*
It’s now the flag of intersectionality.
That’s a ugly flag
Blue fist! Smurf Pride!
We gotta draw the line somewhere. To hell with purple people... unless they are suffocating. Then. Help them. - Mitch Hedberg
Reminded me of this gem.
What does the blue fist represent?!
I need to educate myself.
No idea. Some one in drop the t reddit though maybe the red white and blue fist was the flag colors, but the other fists are like skin tones (races) so i'm not sure.
Its just an odd smash up of Gay Trans and Blm.
Blue lives matter
Hey now. Smurf-o-sexual is a thing. Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.
😂
This is like 6 different things at once. Hideous and diluted.
Being black or brown automatically makes one queer? Doesn't that just re-enforce the white default?
We should abolish colleges.
I was just reading about Guinevere’s evolution through the Arthurian story timelines from the Middle Ages and love that people study history and literature and keep this knowledge alive and available.
And then the same old cynic in me crept up and thought it’s all going to hell and these things will all be burned and bleached and rewritten to appease the thought police.
Because black and brown are the only marginalised lgbt+ peeps ... Cries in Asian
That flag has way too much going on 😂😂 regardless of how you feel about any of those groups/ideologies/whatever, you gotta admit that flag is ugly af just from a graphic design perspective
It looks like the colorful lockscreen that came on after TV ended in the old times when it wasn't running 24/7
It looks like somebody wiped their ass with the original pride flag and then dropped ice cream on it.
reminds me of the UN Women logo on twitter now
OMG—is it smiling?!
Lmao
Gotta love how they claim to embrace every cause on a single flag and yet feminism is left out. So representative of the current american left.
I keep seeing sets of flags being raised that include one BLM one and one trans one. How do people not see how selfish and disgusting that is? "BLACK TRANS LIVES MATTER!" Shut the fuck up narcissists, that's already included under BLM. The sad/scary part is that non-trans people are often shouted this out; they've got the hoi polloi under their stick-on-nail-embellished thumb.
There's a theory that it was designed to mirror the Palestinian flag by antisemites. This wouldn't surprise me in the least.
It's because of the visual composition (composition and graphics have their own laguage, you can see it used everyday in ads and art) and the use of the symbols and colours.
To explain it I will start with the basic rainmbow. The horizontal lines of the rainbow are visually read as equal, (even if they are vertical, like that example) are interpreted as the same. Even if some colours are at the top, because the colours themselves create a gradient, they complement each other. It's something that you eyes can read going up and down, but as a whole.
But the added part is a triangle, with a clear direction. On visual arts and graphic design, the elements that are triangular indicates movement, an object that gains territory. The triangle points the rainbow, and goes there. Also, you can give another interpretation, that its entering, inside the rainbow. Another thing: it's a really different shape, is in contrast with the rectangular lines of the rainbow, rather is a triangle. Also is usualy at the top, and that can be real as a hierarchy.
Other people mentioned the colours, certainly they are also importat, but I think that the simbolis is more related with the shape and how it's been placed. But I think it's interesting to see the black line sorrounding the triangle, because it's a bold contrast between the rainbow and the pastel colours.
Another idea that comes to my mind, is that they are doing a reference to flags of decolonized countries, like the Cuban or Puerto Rican flags, that have a triangle with an star to mean independence.
In my opinion, the trans flag has been placed in an obvious way that distinguishes it self of the rainbow. Rather than follow the first design, being placed as one more gradient. Finally, the election of the brown colours uses in reference of race have the same interested use as ideologically, they are used as an element to highlight more the trans flag.
It makes me laugh because it really does match that stereotype of them barging into others' spaces but I hate that they've co-opted race issues.
Why do they have to change the pride flag? Why cant they just be a part of it?
Graphic design was not someone's passion