I know makeup/dressing up won't make you a non-incel. But I do believe it can bring you up 1-2 points regardless of how you look, if you focus on fixing your issues with makeup :)

This is not for you to not be an incel , but more of a confidence boost so you can walk down the street more comfortable as I can see lots of you lack confidence and suffer from mental illnesses.

And yeah I'm a female not a 'moid' if it matters.

It’s obvious that women don’t care for sex, they want relationships more. Women can easily get sex since men are so desperate. That being said, referring to yourselves incels just doesn’t make sense, I think involuntarily single is more fitting. Do you agree?

For a long time now, I've felt like something was wrong with the way men treated unattractive women. It hurts so so so much to have my feelings confirmed by this sub but at least I know I'm not crazy for crying about my ugliness for ages, for feeling like the men who talk to me are ashamed of the fact that they do so, even though they only are looking for a quick fuck. I ask you all, what now? Even if I were to somehow get into a relationship, I wouldn't be able to live with the fact that my dude would constantly be looking at porn of Stacys and looking at me and wishing I wasn't what I am.

I think that's at the heart of the pain, tbh: knowing that no matter what, no one will ever love me unconditionally and fully, for who I am. I will never be anyone's first choice.

Usually there’s this young Stacy about 17, then comes along Giga Chad with a square jaw who is a million years old wanting to settle down with her after enjoying the pussy carousel over his years. Then Young Stacy falls head over heels for Giga Chad.

Giga Chad declares his undying love, Stacy does not wait to think if he’s lying. She’s too in love with his muscles and square jaw and eyes usually blue or green.

Giga Chad is mean looking. Always 6ft over. Borderline sociopathic but he has a square jaw so it’s all good...

Whatever the plot the Stacy is too young for Giga Chad but that’s what he wants because he’s used to people falling for him all the damn time.

If you’re a woman of colour, you’ll never have a character you can relate to. Or if you do, the character dies for Stacy’s sake. Jfl.

I hate everything.

That’s all.

So, do you guys ever enjoy the company of guys who tend to fawn over anything resembling a girl in a game? Like is the attention you get appreciated or is it annoying? On that note, does it depend on the person who its coming from?

Im curious because, youd think a lot of incels would use gaming communities to help form bonds with people romantically, but idunno if the sisters here ever thought to do that.

So I'll start with myself first. I'm a currycel, manlet (5'7) who is sub 5 in the face department. Frame wise, I'm not that great either. These are the things which I think are impeding me from scoring with females. What about you guys?

It's because male incels are upset and bitter that they can't get an attractive woman. This is all that male incels are. In a lot of their posts and comments they actually say how they want Stacy. They're only venting their frustration about not getting to be with an attractive woman. Women do not desire attractive men the way men desire attractive women, and therefore women don't lament on the internet about not being able to be with attractive men.

Fat obese misogynistic ugly men

Quiet, shy guys

Nerds

NEETs

Men under 6'2

Doesn't have a PhD or a master degree

Lives with mommy and daddy

Racist men

Dick size under 8.75in

Face attractiveness under PSL 7.5/10

Doesn't work out/out of shape

Has no beard and/or is bald

Doesn't watch movies with female protagonists at least twice per day

Doesn't support feminism

So I've been looking through this sub for a number of hours, having found out what an incel is like a day ago, and am certainly unqualified and unprepared to make an unsolicited statement about the topic of inceldom.

So here is my statement.

A few of you are going to eventually find meaningful and loving romantic relationships.

Some of you will die alone.

It sucks.

Anyway, I reccomend the book Woman at Point Zero by Nawal El Saadawi. It's not about femcels or anything but it is very interesting and people should read it.

24, New Delhi.

I'd self-rate myself a 4/10, but am willing to date anyone.

PM.

What I've gleaned from this sub is people here call themselves incels not for being unable to have sex but for not being able to have a marrriage/LTR. What I don't get is the basis of the assumption that good looking girls are all in committed relationship or married. Singles are the majority in the US and many of them are quite attractive, yet they are single. Marriage rate is decreasing all over the world. Men today are reluctant to marry because it's a raw deal for them, many marriages ended up in no-fault divorce leaving the men completely screwed. Also, the manosphere is growing bigger and bigger as I write this which means men can now see through the AF/BB strategy of women.

The days of riding the cock carousel through their 20s and later settling with a beta cuck are coming to an end for women, sooner than they think. Yes, pretty girls have tons of beta orbiters and many of them would marry them if given a chance. But those men are simps and they are ridiculed by men and women alike. Do you want a relationship with such men? I guess not. A man who is not a simp, who makes a decent living, owns a home and well put together in life would agree that it's better to be alone than betabuxing a woman who have been with many guys before. This trend is already visible and I am certain that in next 30 years the number of such guys will only increase, marriage will then be considered a thing of the past.

I can assure you that when it comes to marriage, attractive girls and not-so attractive girls are on the same page. In terms of short-term relationships and casual sex, yes, there are light-years difference, but in terms of marriage, you'll soon be on equal footing with them. There are bucket loads of pretty women in their mid-30s who can't get a guy to say "I DO." Does that mean they are incels too? If marriage/LTR is the only thing you want, I don't see any point in assuming that stacy has it better than you. Because they don't.

Girls 6 or under are insanely insecure. They will obsesses about every little thing i say or do. They constantly think i'm cheating or am about to cheat. If i get a text from a random Stacy it's grounds for a break up. If i have even a single item in my house from an ex or some girl i banged then that's grounds for a break up. It's frankly exhausting to constantly have to reassure someone they are the only one.

At least Stacy understands i too got beta orbiters and that just having people send me shit on facebook or IG doesn't mean i'm fucking or even talking to them.

I get it though, they know i've been riding the vag carousel for 15 years and am now looking to settle but come on, why even enter in to a relationship if they can't handle it.

Which brings the question do you as a femcel think you could even handle being in a relationship with Chad knowing he could fuck Stacy every time he leaves the house.

Yeah, yeah, not all of them are like that, but not all nazis killed people. some of them just hated Jews/s.

I just don't see how hating women (even without doing any harm to them) is justified if you're a normal, sane human being. Chances are - if you do - you aren't sane and no woman should date you.

Hey everyone,

I know that most of you will probably think I'm crazy after reading this, but I'm begging you to at least give it a try. I'm a femcel myself at almost 26, and most of the time, it's fairly bearable since I still live with my parents and at least have some support and emotional connection that way. Anyway, the point is that my appearance is probably the main reason why I'm still a kissless virgin who's never even held hands and I can empathise with every single one of you.

However, and here's where the crazy part comes in, I recently discovered something called subliminals. They're essentially audio files with music that has positive affirmations layered beneath it with the purpose of reaching the subconscious mind and making lasting changes in any area of life you want. Subliminals have become really popular on YouTube lately, and that's where you can find them the most easily. Why am I telling you this? Well, there are pretty much hundreds of subliminals for every single problem that is keeping us from finding a special someone - mental illness, appearance, trauma, etc. I know this sounds too good to be true, but please at least check out some of the most-viewed videos and look at the comments, and you'll see that lots of people have had true success with them. (however, please avoid a channel called 'Mind Power' - she's one of the very few bad apples)

For example, I've been using a weightloss subliminal for a few days and I've been losing a fricking pound per day! That sounds like it's worth a try, right? I know that this must sound like hokey-pokey to most of you, but I know what it's like to be at your wit's end and to think that all hope is lost - but what if it isn't? This could be the magic solution for us - I really hope it will be.

Lots of love to all of you ♥

the shorter the dude, the more desperate he is deep down.

So just take a shower, looksmaxx, bjmaxx until you are on that heather brooke level and hit on manlets. You probably will have height, manlets will have acceptable facial aesthetics.. and your kids just might turn out to be normies.

I've been lurking on here and on r/braincels mainly just to check out different perspective on things and comparing+contrasting the two. Ive noticed that you guys here tend to be nicer to each other than the guys over at r/braincels. Maybe its just a sense of sisterhood idunno, but as far as ive seen, over there the guys provide less emotional support to each other overall than over here. That being said, I do enjoy the wholesome lifeposts that are occasionally made.

If you won't date me. I'm 6'5,white,wide frame with blue eyes and a small dick. I'm also ugly and that is the reason why no female will ever date me. Stop faking and learn how to sign up on tinder.

I see these incel foos on here making gnarly comments and trolling you girls and you just give them attention and even continue to conversate with them. I'm pretty sure some of you girls even have DMs with them. Like really? I'm talking about iamsamurai, rhughar and ummdaddy and others I think. I'm not gonna correctly spell out their names but you know them. I seen their post and they actually consider themselves handsome incels. Why do you girls associate with these dudes? You talk about dudes mistreating you but you continue to let them chill here and even gave one of them his own flair. I see other incels on here who truly support you femcels but you kind of ignore them so they shy away and leave. If you can't ban them then stop replying to their comments and ignore them. They seem to get a kick in making g slide comments to your every post. That is all. Thanks.

I can't count the times I've tried to make plans with girls to hang out and they've flaked on me. I'm sitting here for the fourth time this week, dressed up, getting a "sorry something came up" text. Even friendship with someone as weird looking as me is off the table. I can see the photos she's posting on Facebook. She's having fun. I'm sitting here in a drunken slump.

I'm so ugly I'm difficult to look at. I understand why people stay away. I have myasthenia gravis so half of my face is drooping downward and the other is normal. My speaking voice is slurred because of this too. Sounds like I have down syndrome. Oh, and my hands shake so I can't shave anything without almost killing myself. And also my legs barely work so I have a limp. Oh and I'm also fucking bald because my mother's gene's suck. I have a wig but that's just cope. And I have eczema on my legs/arms so it looks like I have zits on every part of my body. Also, I have a hard time gaining weight so I weigh 90 pounds at 5'7". Also I have the exact same eyes/eye wrinkles as steve buschemi and I'm only 20. I look like a braindead skeletal zombie that can barely speak.

Fuck this "women can't be incel shit". I can't even find friends. I've found 5 guys 1/10 guys who said they'd come over to have sex with me. Guess what? Two made excuses to leave once they saw me. One tried his best but couldn't get hard and yelled at me for that. One was in a fucking wheelchair and still tried to act like "whoops wrong apartment" when he showed up and saw me. The last guy said he didn't want a sexual relationship, he just wanted a friendship. Welp that guy left and never texted me back.

Fuck all this shit. I'm unfuckable, unlovable and awkward as shit because isolation has left me anxious and slightly schizophrenic. I'm so done with trying.

to all the ladies here, for providing a lot of useful and enlightening input on the flipside of the incel coin...

after first hearing what an incel was earlier today, and reading about their toxic attitude towards the fairer sex - i'm glad i stumbled across this forum on my way out their door !

know it doesn't mean much (or anything, to some) but i appreciate the candor you have, and plan to return once i've formulated some intelligent questions to ask.

and for those who've given up on us men, i encourage you to express your true nature in other ways. women are LIFEbringers - even those who've chosen not to procreate (or been denied). 'da boss upstairs gave you a stronger spark of creation - and countless ways to use that gift in the world today. take pride in what you CAN do and you will SHINE !

-Respectfully

M

I have some genuine questions here.

1) You admit that you could get sex, why do you still call yourself celibate then? Don't tell me being unmarried makes you celibate because Dictionary.com defines celibacy as abstinence from sexual relations. Also, more than 40% US adults are unmarried. Are they all celibate then?

2) You complain that men might have sex with you but will never love you. Unironically, Stacy has the same complain. She may get thousands of dicks but most men just want casual sex from her, not long-term relationship. She may bag a modeling contract but you know very well that doesn't lead to marriage. Or she may end up a trophy wife of a wealthy guy; I am sure this is not what most of you want when you think of relationship and marriage. If stacy's life is not fundamentally any different from yours, except the volume of casual sex and validation, why do you lament then?

3) I am guessing most of you here are white. Have you ever thought of dating ethno guys? Most ethnic men I know worship white girls, black men, latino men and asian men are all over white women. If you give them a chance, you may end your celibacy.

These are all genuine questions. I am really curious to know how you answer them. Please don't use abusive words or name calling.

I'm a short mexican guy who gets ghosted by any girl I ever talk to.

I am also doubtful that you girls are actually incel and not just overweight. I can't change my height but you can put down the fork. Fatcels are volcel. That's a basic law of inceldom.

If you don't want to date me you are volcel right. So have at it.

There are so many posts of malecels lamenting about never being able to have Stacy. You feel like you deserve a natural beauty. You would never be happy with a 2/10. Why are your standards so high? A 5 to you is Gigi Hadid. You wouldn't value someone who was your match or uglier. Men see attractive women as trophies and validation. Looks matter so much and that's why you sit and lament about Stacy and will never have a girlfriend you are happy with because Stacy will never want you.

http://wgtow.net/

Welcome to WGTOW.net
OCTOBER 11, 2014WGHOW
Women Going Their Own Way (WGTOW.net) is for women who have no interest in male chivalry, and no interest in being damselled or pedestalized.
In place of these inane stereotypes, it’s time for a real movement to transcend them instead of waiting for a faux movement that promised to discard gender assumptions but did little more than entrench them further.
Women Going Their Own Way can be viewed as a counterpart to the Men Going Their Own Way movement, but it is no mere copy. Self-determined men and women, and the phrase ‘go your own way’ is hundreds of years old, serving as a call to integrity and independence that can’t be limited to one gender or group.
We no longer wish to be held to the ridiculous standard of goddesses, and we don’t need to be seen as damsels in distress. And we sure as hell don’t need to be fawned over by chivalric knights and heroes; men can leave their suits of armor and jousting utensils at home. All we ask is to be seen as human beings instead of stereotypes, and even if you won’t extend that grace, you can rest assured we will be extending it to ourselves.
Stay tuned, more content will be available soon!

Will it help women, especially femcels? What do you think it will achieve?

Is it just a coping mechanism?

Is it a poor copy of MGTOW?

And she won't respond to message on discord either. is she okay? It's been 4 days.

When I first started getting involved in incel communities I started posting on braincels. Not that I fit in at all. Most of them ranted about how women can't be incel, dumb stuff like that. I stayed anyways and they treated me terribly. When I first learned about femcels, the subreddit was mostly full of men larping with only a few femcels. (I checked their profiles and it was clear). There are more of us now but there are still a ton of male trolls here.

Anyways, I finally ended up here after a few months of being known as the psycho lesbian incel who tries to be special when I'm really not and there are thousands, if not millions of us. Not that I really fit in here either, not really being attracted to men.

Honestly, one of the only reasons why I go to braincels now is to redirect femcels here so they don't have to spend months stuck in that subreddit hating themselves, getting treated like shit by most malecels. I mean we still get brigaders from braincels, but whatever.

I want a custom flair tbh

Just a reminder. You all have a good day now. I'm gonna eat my weight in fried chicken and mayo covered chips.

Now I just want to start with the fact that I'm not trying to patronise any of you, the answer to this might be obvious but it isn't to me, I am simply curious.

Why don't you go over to r/braincels or incel spaces and date the male incels there? I've never dated anyone besides people from such communities, and I admit, it's hard, people there can be shitty if that's the reason, but there's loyal people there too and I think taking that risk is better than remaining a KV.

Now I may personally believe that females cannot be incel but I don't believe you ladies are stupid in feeling you are, because I felt I was doomed for the longest time. But I see many people get angry when male incels try use this place as a dating sub and what have you, and my question to that is why? Isn't love what you're looking for.

TL;DR: why can't everybody from r/Trufemcels and r/Braincels just love eachother and solve the problem in itself?

First off I wanna apologise because I’m about to draw a comparison to male incels and I know you hate those guys.

Ok so although it’s hard to argue with the core idea that men of any age primary want a hot 20 year old there are some things I think you aren’t considering.

1. Men will mostly take what they can get

2. It is totally possible to like a girl for who she is and not be too bothered by looks

3. There is a statistical graph by Okcupid going around that shows how the genders rate each other and women were rated on an almost perfect bell curve, compared to men who were almost 100% voted as a 5/10 or lower

4. I saw a thread of incels posting selfies and the discrepancy between their perception and the reality of their looks was kinda mind blowing, like 7/10’s who thought they were 2/10

And that is why I think that most of you couldn’t possibly be in the dire situation that you think you are (looks wise)

My first post ever, thank you for reading

Hey everyone, I have been commenting and supporting for months on this sub, so I decided to just go ahead get a throwaway account to start making posts since honestly, ya'll have been talking some truth; and I want to be apart of it. without the repercussions of my comment/post history

So I have been in complete solidarity with femcel ideas and thoughts for about 2 years. But I myself don't really know where I fall in. I don't have an ugly-looking face, it's just I have an awful body and brain (10+ years of anorexia, BED, EDNOS, Depression, Trichotillomania, Social Anxiety).

In fact, what drove me to femceldom was just my entire experience with male attraction under certain bmi. Coming from my own experience, I stopped receiving positive male attention (compliments and being asked out) at bmi 18-19, and any positive male attention whatsoever (talking to me, listening to me, you know...human decency) at 23-24, and then negative attention began ("fat" comments, "she got big and its disgusting") towards bmi 26 (also I should mention that below bmi 16 does negative attention exists but instead in the form of "too thin" comments)

Now I know that my above run on sentence basically summed up over 8 years of trying (or at least wishing) to get into a relationship, but if you want me to elaborate, I wouldn't mind doing so.

I don't really know what to do at this point, besides just getting back to a healthy weight (rn bmi 24.2!!) and accept that I'll be an old maid. Because even when I had a technically nice face and nice body, I was so mentally ill that it rendered the two meaningless. Not-to-fucking-mention how goddamn hard it is to keep myself at the bmi that is most desired --> 18.5 (at least in my experience)

That's enough of my sob-story intro, just wanna let it all out there before I'm ready to tell my therapist and take my medicine ;). I can't wait to get to vent and connect with ya'll before this sub really does become satire.

18 yr old currycel living in flanders belgium searching for someone to date, just to experience love and passion. And someone to cope/rope with, play vidya with, do dumb shit with etc etc

Please be:

*living in belgium or closeby flanders

*speak english

*Max age 25

*not obese

My hobbies:

*Gaming

*Repairing bikes

*Hardcore chess player

*Cycling

*Can somewhat play the piano(learning via synthesia)

*Cycling

*Board game meetup every saturday

*I watch a few anime (One piece,Naruto,Bleach,Dbz and a few more)

And i just found this sub like 2 mins ago all this time i thought femcels were a meme and found it stupid that there exists incels and femcels when we could be coping together

Hello femcels,

I'm a kind and loving man. I have a good job, and live in a spacious, luxurious appartment. I am willing to date any femcel here.

I have no particular standards when it comes to looks. You may even have mental issues, that's okay, we're all human. I'm just looking for a nice girl to spend some time with.

Or keep telling him: "There's plenty more fish in the sea", "just keep trying", "you're not bad looking", "you need more confidence", etc.

I have a female friend -- who doesn't like me romantically -- who is telling me exactly this. In fact, she wants to create me a Tinder profile. I told her that I deleted it cuz women don't match me and she just doesn't get it.

She said she uses Tinder, got her last boyfriend off it, etc, so she has no idea what I'm going through.

The women here are constantly on the defensive because of the moids who come here to spam and cry because we don’t want their wurst. They’re shitting up the sub. Can we start banning these people? Or at least add some rules like “no trolling/moid shitposts”

I once used POF as a woman (catfish) with a cranofacial deformity - Cherubism - and I was able to get guys who wanted me, so any woman can get a boyfriend off Tinder if they actually try it.

I have met nice attractive girls or average ones who were kind and hardworking and had their own jobs.

Femcels: 25 or 30 plus years (skinny fat and below average looking or ugly):

wah wah wah No chad or chadlite who is over 5 10 and is rich wants to fuck me and marry me

and take care of me and give me a big house and nice vacations and provide food for me whilst

I sit down and watch lifetime movies all day long.

Nice kind average/decent guy offers them a loving relationship and to take care of them:

Get out of here you ugly mug. You look like a pedo even though you are not and a good person

Yes I know chad is a pedo too but he doesnt look ugly so I dont care.

teehhee

Please make me head mod, I'm the guy that won't get you banned.